No, just that Luke was nothing compared to Vader in ROTS. He straight out says later that Vader let him win. And this is the same Vader that Marek wiped the floor with. Apparently twice.
Didn't Vader admit in the RotJ novel something like, "this boy could actually beat me" or something like that? How do/would you reconcile the two differing statements? Either way, we both agree that he probably falls at 6.
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Dead at 6. Vader alone would be enough IMO, or close to enough.
Not at all. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: In fact in the new game it apperas Vader is superior to Marek and is kicking his ass most of the fight. It is only at the end when Marel channels the electricity of several generators into Vader that he gains the upper hand. And even then the secret cutscenes make it appera that Vader may have staged his defeat.
Actually if you read the fight between Vader and Marek in TFU novel, it was a close fight for a while, in Sabers and the Force. But then after a page somehow Marek came out on top. He seemed to be getting under Vader's skin telling him he feels sorry for him.
In my humble opinion it will go like that:
1) clears
2) clears
3) clears
4) clears
5) clears, but with difficulty
6) possibly looses
7) possibly clears
8) possibly looses
9) looses
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I'm guessing that, admit it or not, Vader had fatherly feelings for the boy. He was still in his twenties at the time and knew that Marek was about the age his child would have been. I guess it got to him.
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Actually in the novel of the origional TFU, it seemed like Marek was winning with both sabers AND the force in dominant fashion.
Also, I just read the comic book of TFU II the other day, and Marek beats Vader without a fight. Marek is standing next to Vader, Vader starts to stab the unarmed Marek, and Marek just fries him. (talking about the beginning of the book... not sure if that is what you were referrring to)
^truejedi, he was talking about the end of the game. The lighting attack youre referring to was a surprise attack that allowed Marek to escape but Vader wasn't harmed.
I definitely dont see Anakin passing 5. I think Maul on his own would be close to Anakin's level. With Ventress, who is a challenge for him on her own, he's going down. Also, I have my doubts that he could defeat Grevious, as the main reason Obi-wan was able to was because of his particular style. Since Anakin doesn't use the same form, he has a good chance of losing there too.
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I don't know. Anakin while not in the z0ne managed to hold his own against Ventress and Dooku at the same time, not to mention he has beaten Ventress plenty of times even as a padawan. Really while in the z0ne Anakin should be able to defeat her rather effortlessly to the point that she wouldn't be much more than an annoyance (remeber how easily Dooku took her down).
Think your seriously underestimating Zone Anakin there. Anakin even as of clone wars was almost a match for Dooku in Sabers. And that was an Anakin who was still upto that point seriously holding back on his fury.
Maul may be close to CW Anakin.. Ventress may be a challenge to CW Anakin. And of course he would defeat Greivous in CW or ROTS. But ROTS Zone Anakin, would wipe the floor with any of those 3. In fact in that clear state of mind, completely unleashing all the fury inside him, he was able to wipe the floor with Count Dooku.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:48 PM
No. Read it again. When he finally got a strike in, then he struck Vader multiple times, and chucked him around with the force.
But before he got in a strike they were going back and forth for a while in Sabers and with the Force. It wasnt till he started to mock Vader about how he felt sorry for him, that Galen finally got in a strike, and then continued to batter Vader.
If I remember correctly, and please correct me if I'm wrong (through the use of quotes preferably), Marek was dancing circles around Vader pretty much from the start of their duel.
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I just read it the other day. Il get the book out again tonight, but basically for the whole first page Vader's strikes were getting dangerously close to Marek.. But Marek held his own as did Vader. They even started using the Force against each other without either one gaining the advantage.
Its only on the second page, when Marek has a realisation, and feels sorry for Vader, and tells him so, that Marek finally gets a strike in. After that first strike he goes on to beat the snot out of Vader with his Lightsaber and with the Force.
Nov 9th, 2010 03:28 PM
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