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Emperor Palpatine -vs- Emperor Vitiate
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Emperor Palpatine -vs- Emperor Vitiate

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Emperor Palpatine as of Return of the Jedi and Emperor Vitiate as of Tales of the Old Republic are whisked away through time and space to fight on the unfinished Death Star - within Palpatine's Throne Room.



They start 15 Feet apart and are Blood-lusted.

The two Emperors will battle it out to see who will rule over the Galaxy.

All out - who is superior?

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Considering Emperor Palpatine was caught off gaurd by an injured, hulking-cyborg and Emperor Vitiate was caught off gaurd by an expertly-thrown lightsaber - I'd say their reactionary-abilities are about the same here.

So now it's a Force Battle of power and knowledge. cool


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From those pictures.... It looks like Vitiate was just a knock-off of Palpatine.

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From those pictures.... It looks like Vitiate was just a knock-off of Palpatine.


- Welcome to the new Star Wars! big grin

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It looks like knock-off Palpatine wins here, though.

It seems Vitiate is indeed superior to this version of Sidious.


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The arguments were pretty convincing on both sides.

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The arguments were pretty convincing on both sides.


I really agree with your sentiment - I'd love to see what people think about this battle.

This is effectively a pure battle of power and knowledge, without any "speed blitzing" - and I don't think either side can win easily.

I personally don't know of any way Palpatine can overcome Vitiate, but it seems like perhaps Vitiate might be able to over-power him?

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Again, it depends on how generous both sides want to be.

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Originally posted by Rookwood
I really agree with your sentiment - I'd love to see what people think about this battle.

This is effectively a pure battle of power and knowledge, without any "speed blitzing" - and I don't think either side can win easily.

I personally don't know of any way Palpatine can overcome Vitiate, but it seems like perhaps Vitiate might be able to over-power him?

Vitiate is more lethal with the Force.

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Vitiate is more lethal with the Force.
And Palpatine is arguably stronger. I believe the quote of him being the most powerful still stands due to backtracking. I remember some thread with a debate on this, about how Vitiate's quote is for his era? Something about Palpatine's quote encompassing Vitiates time and being from Lucas himself or some shit. Idk. Don't care. Vitiate has the same facial structure as Palpatine in that picture. Stupid how they just copied him.

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I really agree with your sentiment - I'd love to see what people think about this battle.

This is effectively a pure battle of power and knowledge, without any "speed blitzing"



You mean a battle without lightsaber's, or are you saying Palpatine doesn't get his speed at all here? Because speed is not limited to lightsaber combat.


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but it seems like perhaps Vitiate might be able to over-power him?



How is that exactly? TP? TK? FL?


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The only thing Sidious has on Vitiate is sabers

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Vitiate is more lethal with the Force.
Can he drain a planet without any rituals like Palpatine? Can he summon a wormhole that could destroy an entire armada or tear off a planets surface?

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The only thing Sidious has on Vitiate is sabers



And what exactly does Vitiate have on Sidious? Living longer?

Sabers is what it comes down to when two opponents are near equals in the force.


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And Palpatine is arguably stronger. I believe the quote of him being the most powerful still stands due to backtracking. I remember some thread with a debate on this, about how Vitiate's quote is for his era? Something about Palpatine's quote encompassing Vitiates time and being from Lucas himself or some shit. Idk. Don't care. Vitiate has the same facial structure as Palpatine in that picture. Stupid how they just copied him.

I don't buy this argument.

In a recent 'real-world perspective' based Star Wars book from Pablo Hidalgo, no Sith Lord has been declared most powerful.

People do not bother to ascertain if such quotes are in 'in-universe perspective' based sources or 'real-world perspective' based sources.

Also, this is a matter of subjective opinion.

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Can he drain a planet without any rituals like Palpatine?

You are trying to make this feat look more impressive then it is. Nihilus trumps every Sith Lord in this aspect. Should we consider him more powerful then Palpatine?

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Can he summon a wormhole that could destroy an entire armada or tear off a planets surface?

To be honest, this is the only saving grace of Palpatine.

However, Vitiate has some skills of his own:

1- Could create phantoms/illusions with the Force during combat situations (very taxing feat mind you)
2- Demonstrated highest proficiency in FL
3- Could unleash powerful blasts of energies with bare hands (Exar Kun required amulets for this feat)
4- Arguably demonstrated highest proficiency in Mind Tricks/Telepathy
5- Possessed the ability to fight even in essence phase (Palpatine never demonstrated this ability)
6- Better defensive abilities then Palpatine's
7- Also have one of the most potent display of powers under his belt; purged an entire Dark Council with a single blast of a mysterious power described as flash of light.
8. Demonstrated relatively higher proficiency with TK then Palpatine; destroyed a gigantic Dark Temple and caused earthquakes in surroundings.

In addition, Vitiate was also natural with Force Drain/Sever Force techniques. When he was just 10 years old, he stripped Lord Dramath from his powers and mind. And he put his affinity with Force Drain to impressive use with the ritual he performed on Nathema.

Also, this isn't the peak of Vitiate. He was planning to make himself omnipotent and so powerful that he would be able to create Galaxies himself. Fortunately, he was stopped.

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And what exactly does Vitiate have on Sidious? Living longer?

Sabers is what it comes down to when two opponents are near equals in the force.

See above.

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Where are your sources for ANY of this?

EDIT: FAIL. I just noticed this is RoTJ Palpatine. How many of his DE powers does he have? By now he doesn't really get much. Apart from turning an entire legion or Stormtroopers to ash with one blast of lightning. Yeah, can't get much better with lightning that that, or a Sith Wyrm (I can't remember if that is canon or not. If it isn't, I retract it in advance)

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If this is anything other than DE Sidious, he gets stomped.

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Originally posted by Pwned
EDIT: FAIL. I just noticed this is RoTJ Palpatine. How many of his DE powers does he have? By now he doesn't really get much. Apart from turning an entire legion or Stormtroopers to ash with one blast of lightning. Yeah, can't get much better with lightning that that, or a Sith Wyrm (I can't remember if that is canon or not. If it isn't, I retract it in advance)


The only difference between the Emperor and the reborn Emperor is the ability to loose Force Storms (though The Book of Sith says he's been working on this particular power for decades).

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That's not the only difference. Apparently, DE Sidious came up with some brand new, nifty techniques. Also, in a young body, he was a potent saber combatant, whereas ROTJ Sidious was not.

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