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Smile Luke Skywalker (ROTJ) and 501st VS. Jedi Temple

In 19 BBY, if when Anakin was storming the Jedi Temple with the 501st, and if Anakin was replaced with ROTJ Luke, could Luke reek as much havok and successfully raid the Jedi temple withought dying with the same clones, resources, etc. without dying and all that, could he still kill all the Jedi? But you guys know what I mean right? wink

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It was the amount of clones that overwelmed and outnumbered the jedi, as well as suprise. Putting 1 jedi in the mix wouldn't have made a difference really.

So with Luke replacing Anakin, the clones would have still been victorious. However, I believe its possible that Luke could have been killed due to his lack of experience compared to the jedi that have been trained since young.

Maybe if he didn't get involved as much as Anakin did, he could possibly survive.

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It was the amount of clones that overwelmed and outnumbered the jedi, as well as suprise. Putting 1 jedi in the mix wouldn't have made a difference really.

So with Luke replacing Anakin, the clones would have still been victorious. However, I believe its possible that Luke could have been killed due to his lack of experience compared to the jedi that have been trained since young.

Maybe if he didn't get involved as much as Anakin did, he could possibly survive.


Agreed smile

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It was the amount of clones that overwelmed and outnumbered the jedi, as well as suprise. Putting 1 jedi in the mix wouldn't have made a difference really.

So with Luke replacing Anakin, the clones would have still been victorious. However, I believe its possible that Luke could have been killed due to his lack of experience compared to the jedi that have been trained since young.

Maybe if he didn't get involved as much as Anakin did, he could possibly survive.


Anakin got some of his kills due to trust. Luke wouldn't have that so he'd have to work more.


He could fall prey to Shaak Ti (the most powerful Jedi in the temple), perhaps.

The temple falls regardless, but the Skywalker might go down with it and more Jedi may be able to escape.


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Well, didnt Shaak Ti flee the Temple very quickly, or did she fight first?

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Well, didnt Shaak Ti flee the Temple very quickly, or did she fight first?


According to TFU's records on the subject, she met Anakin, clashed with him, threw an illusion then escaped.


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Since ROTJ Vader>>>>>>ROTS human Vader, Luke shouldn't have much difficulty at all.


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According to TFU's records on the subject, she met Anakin, clashed with him, threw an illusion then escaped.

Ok, thanks Happy Dance

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Luke is far more powerful than Anakin at this point. They have the same amount of training in time spent, the difference is Luke's obvious aptitudes and age, he excelled a lot faster because he started later and was just plain a better student.

Anakin didn't even study or train as much as Luke, he mainly just battled, that's how he got stronger. Luke didn't rush through anything, he just succeeded in training with Yoda quicker, and took a lot more practice, meditation, training upon himself than Anakin. It's all in the six novelizations, even though Luke wasn't potentially as great the Chosen One could have been, his lack of a superiority complex more than made up for it, and he was still extremely Force sensitive.


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Luke is far more powerful than Anakin at this point. They have the same amount of training in time spent, the difference is Luke's obvious aptitudes and age, he excelled a lot faster because he started later and was just plain a better student.

Anakin didn't even study or train as much as Luke, he mainly just battled, that's how he got stronger. Luke didn't rush through anything, he just succeeded in training with Yoda quicker, and took a lot more practice, meditation, training upon himself than Anakin. It's all in the six novelizations, even though Luke wasn't potentially as great the Chosen One could have been, his lack of a superiority complex more than made up for it, and he was still extremely Force sensitive.
How do you know Anakin studied or trained less than Luke? The battles that Anakin did were part of his training, not necessarily the clone wars but the missions he did in the first ten years of becoming a jedi knight.

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Since ROTJ Vader>>>>>>ROTS human Vader, Luke shouldn't have much difficulty at all.
ROTJ Vader may be more powerful in the force, but this really doesn't make up for the skills of Pre suit Vader. The intensity of the Pre suit Vader vs Kenobi fight is very high compared to Vader vs Luke fights.

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Since ROTJ Vader>>>>>>ROTS human Vader


GL disagree with you, i guess.

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ROTJ Vader may be more powerful in the force, but this really doesn't make up for the skills of Pre suit Vader. The intensity of the Pre suit Vader vs Kenobi fight is very high compared to Vader vs Luke fights.


These "aggressive skills" you speak of got him mutilated by Soresu defensive maneuvers.

Vader was legions more skilled, and a lot stronger in the Force.

Just Some Irrelevant Trivia: Whenever Anakin would achieve Oneness, he did once while channeling the energies of Mortis and once when the Living Force made him into a ghost without him doing anything...his powers exceeded Abeloth, the strongest being we've seen.


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