Force: I wanna say he also loses at 1, because without DS amp the brothers might be too much for him. ... But ok, I'll give poor Vitiate a break, he goes down at 5.
All-out: He is possibly defeated at 2. Depends if Anakin gets pissed, which I see happening if Vitiate Force-handles Kenobi.
If Vitiate somehow wins there, he definitely loses at 4. Bane in Orbalisks is too much for him to handle.
On Dromund Kaas:
Sabers: Vitiate goes down at 1.
Force: Vitiate might be beaten at 3 by Zannah's DS tentacles.
Not sure if he goes beyond 4 and 5, mainly because Bane and Plagueis will also be enhanced by the DS nexus. Especially Plagueis might be Vitiate's nemesis Force-wise.
If Vitiate somehow wins, he loses at 6 to Vader.
All-out: Vitiate is defeated at 5 or 6.
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Last edited by axel_jovan on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 04:03 PM
Vader is as impressive as Vitiate in terms of TK--But he's less impressive with arcane powers and sorcery. He makes up for this with far superior lightsaber skills and his mechanical hard-as-hell-to-destroy body.
It's a very close match, but how do you suppose Vader would defend against a Force Storm like Vitiate threw at Revan?
Simple
We have seen Vader taking a helluva lot of punsihment in TFU games and still being combat-ready afterwards.
In TFU Vader took to the face an explosion that destroyed emperor’s tower on Death Star. And he was back on his feet moments later.
IN TFU2 on Kamino Marek subdues Vader with storm-empowered lightning and he only manages to make as much damage as to immobilize Vader.
This is the same Marek whose FL casually obliterates AT-AT, and he only managed to zap Vader because he disarmed him earlier of his lightsaber. Seeing how Vitiate sucks at saber-combat, this won't be happening.
“And on the subject of TK, I find that doubtful. Vader was collapsing cathedrals only months after RotS; he never achieved the height of his powers until decades later. I have never seen Vitiate replicate Vader's telekinetic precision, range, or versatility either.”
“Except that this requires Vitiate to attack first, which would never happen since Vader's combat speed transcends the former's, and requires that Vitiate can even tag Vader with it, which would never happen since Vader can repel it on his lightsaber.”
“Generic destructive telekinetic feats (like destroying his palace or ripping apart T3) are not what I am referring to when I direct you to Vader's feats of precision, technique, or variety. By that, I mean the times Vader has used Crush on a Jedi with multiple hearts, used Lightsaber Throw to spin his lightsaber around himself, redirected missiles, fired blaster rifles while fighting enemies, levitated himself, etc. Beyond that, the "quality" you attribute to Vitiate, destroying buildings, Vader has replicated anyway.”
^ All of these feats were performed by regular!Vader, now imagine DromundKass!Vader.
In short, yes, I rank Vader above Vitiate.
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Last edited by axel_jovan on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 04:34 PM
Vitiate runs the gauntlet
Mar 23rd, 2013 02:42 PM
