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Darth Vader vs. Count Dooku
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Marco1907
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Darth Vader vs. Count Dooku

Sabers, force all out.

Vader post-suit. He is more machine than man.


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Marco1907
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Alright, some people said that I am Dooku hater, but somehow my vote goes to Dooku on this one.

- Vader is officially weak to force lightning.

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Taken from ; Star Wars Comics UK Magazine 04

- Vader is too slow for Dooku.

These two point makes me think that Dooku has major advantage. Vader has strength and durability advantage but not that important as his speed and force lightning disadvantages.

Dooku 7 of 10.


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Vader>Dooku>Maul


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Marco I thought you were of the opinion that anyone who is strong beats Dooku, so this analysis of yours does surprise me.

Vader can always catch FL with his Saber btw, still Dooku might land the odd shot in, if he knows Vader has that weakness.

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Marco1907
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Originally posted by Trocity
Vader>Dooku>Maul


TCW Maul > Dooku = Vader

deal with it.

Remember how clone of Maul kicked Vader's ass.....



Vader only won via PIS, and that was TPM Maul....


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Marco I thought you were of the opinion that anyone who is strong beats Dooku, so this analysis of yours does surprise me.

Vader can always catch FL with his Saber btw, still Dooku might land the odd shot in, if he knows Vader has that weakness.


Vader is too slow for this. Vader already had troubles against average jedi masters, and they were no where near fast as Dooku. There is too much speed difference between Dooku and post-suit Vader. If Dooku plays smart, he should win the majority.


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Vader is susceptible to particularly powerful lightning such as that of Sidious. As seen against Marek's clone, in the novelization he tanks a massive blast of Force Lightning and just goes down on his knee. In the game he takes lightning amplified by two lightning pylons and he does the same.


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Originally posted by Trocity
Vader>Dooku>Maul


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Vader is susceptible to particularly powerful lightning such as that of Sidious. As seen against Marek's clone, in the novelization he tanks a massive blast of Force Lightning and just goes down on his knee. In the game he takes lightning amplified by two lightning pylons and he does the same.


Yeah right, I think that's why he died in 10 second with Sidious's lightning, while Luke take the same lightning for 1 minute and survived.

Vader is more machine than man, and he doesn't have any resistance to force lightning. And also slow in comparision with Dooku and Maul.


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Vader is more machine than man, and he doesn't have any resistance to force lightning.

Did you see how long Vader resisted Starkiller's lightning? Do you think that maybe Sidious just might be more powerful than Marek or his clone? I mean the writers seem to.

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Did you see how long Vader resisted Starkiller's lightning? Do you think that maybe Sidious just might be more powerful than Marek or his clone? I mean the writers seem to.


I don't see any resistance, he just get ass kicked ;

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You do realise that those scenes are condensed, yes?

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Yeah right, I think that's why he died in 10 second with Sidious's lightning, while Luke take the same lightning for 1 minute and survived.

Vader is more machine than man, and he doesn't have any resistance to force lightning. And also slow in comparision with Dooku and Maul.


Didnt Vader die there cause of his hand?

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Yeah right, I think that's why he died in 10 second with Sidious's lightning, while Luke take the same lightning for 1 minute and survived.

Vader is more machine than man, and he doesn't have any resistance to force lightning. And also slow in comparision with Dooku and Maul.


He was already very tired, his use of rage which he would normally use to sustain his health was gone, his hand had been chopped off and he took a sustained point blank full power burst of FL from the most powerful Sith Lord of all time. He still survived all the way to the hangar bay on a moon-sized space station.

Sidious was not hitting him with lethal bursts of lightning, it's stated plainly that he was torturing him, as Luke himself was attempting Tutaminis and so Sidious gradually ramped up the power. Luke was still feeling severe after-effects for months after.

His suit is implied to be a set of Dark Armor and is stated to have lightning resistant materials. He also has his lightsaber with which he has displayed ability to bat away bursts of FL.


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ROTJ Vader>Dooku>/=ROTS Anakin>ESB Vader>ANH Vader>TFU Vader>Maul>Purge Vader


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ROTJ Vader>Dooku>/=ROTS Anakin>ESB Vader>ANH Vader>TFU Vader>Maul>Purge Vader


Clone of TPM Maul already kicked ANH Vader's ass.

TCW Maul >= Dooku > RotJ Vader > TPM Maul > ANH Vader


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Dooku and peak!Vader are both above Maul. They eclipse him in the Force and Dooku at least eclipses him in lightsabers.


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Dooku and peak!Vader are both above Maul. They eclipse him in the Force and Dooku at least eclipses him in lightsabers.


Dooku eclipses him in both, as does arguably Vader.

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Clone of TPM Maul already kicked ANH Vader's ass.

TCW Maul >= Dooku > RotJ Vader > TPM Maul > ANH Vader


Will you stop slobbing on Maul's knob like its corn on the cob.


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Clone of TPM Maul already kicked ANH Vader's ass.


You mean the comic they released like a year or two after TPM because people wanted to see how a Vader vs Maul fight would go down, so they obviously made it even to make them both look good, when feats since then clearly show that Vader can kick Maul's ass?


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As for the fight, I say Vaders superior TK is the deciding factor here.


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