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Ahem. Raskta's only dueling feat is against Bane, someone who has only beaten his opponents due to either having the advantage or drawing on a Nexus. Bane's only real dueling feat was defeating a student and a weak Battle-Master. Blah blah blah, ignore real feats, blah blah blah Contradict myself by saying "Bane sux cuz he lost to Zannah" when earlier i said "Zannah sux cuz she was losing to Bane" and then end the argument with a Pathetic one line such as "(Insert name here) SLAUGHTERHOUSE and/or (insert Name here) Ragdolls Bane"
There, that should pretty much sum up the points that Carthage will attempt to make, if questioned about his reason for believing Vos>Ventress.
On a side note, anyone know when the Ventress/Vos novel is coming out?
I never said Bane sucks because he lost to Zannah, if you ever bothered reading my post as in Ants Zannah runs a gauntlet thread I said he was stronger. I made that determination after relistening to the audiobook fight. Anyway either post on topic or go pollute another thread with your nonsense.
And Ventress has nothing to do with this fight
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Last edited by carthage on Oct 4th, 2014 at 01:46 AM
You must not be very smart, Ive stated Bane >Zannah in over three threads now, even more recently on the Bane vs Kenobi thread. Zannahs victory was entirely circumstantial and he wouldve won if the fight took place on neutral ground, again this is all stuff Ive said before. None of this has anything to do with the thread
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Lsu seems like the better duelist on-paper, but Vos seems to have better actual feats. Vos also seems to be the more powerful Force User, and he does use telekinesis from time to time - enough to afford him a winning edge. I'll take Vos, I guess.
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Vos uses tk so rarely that I can't see it giving him an edge. Raskta may have almost no force, but she does fight those with. If someone has only a little force offense, she's unlikely to give an opening.
And I think pressing a dark lord like Bane hard, and having hundreds of sith kills, trumps what Vos has done.
He used it against Aayla Secura and K'kruhk when he was appropriately angry, he's used it against groups of Anzati, an ARC trooper, he beat Villie up with it a couple of times, and probably others.
Most other times he's had an opportunity to utilise it, there's been circumstance that would make it impossible or highly difficult. I.e, against a bloodlusted Aayla, he was holding back on her and he was too calm to start dishing out telekinesis. Against Bulq, Windu, Krakko and Dooku, they'd be too powerful for him to find success. Against the pair of Morgukai, he was being pressed by them both simultaneously and he was injured at the time, against Tholme he was deliberately trying to subdue him with his cortosis gauntlets, and so on. I'd say while it isn't his forte, he has shown a certain affinity for it, and just hasn't been given the appropriate environment to use it. It's not his go-to but it could help him here and there.
Hundreds of Sith who have accomplished what, exactly? Bane being a Dark Lord alone doesn't do much for his dueling skill - that's a title, not a dueling accolade. Bane is a competent duelist, but he isn't as skilled as Vos, who's comfortably floating around a tier 7 for me.
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People really seem to hate Bane around here but anyways..
Lsu wins, if hitting her with TK was all it took to kill her she would have been dead looooooong ago, however she is credited with hundreds of Sith kills.
Unless you people are trying to tell me that every single one of those Sith are just weaksauce noobs that can't use any TK at all, then LOL.
In sabers Lsu wins every time, no matter how much I like Vos.
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It really just comes to how much stock you put into assumptions. We could assume those hundred odd Sith were worth their salt in a fight but who actually knows? And nobody said all it would take is a bit of TK to down her. But having the advantage isn't a bad thing, and to me the quality of a feat is far more important than the quantity. Vos' dueling feats > Lsu's.
Side note: I don't hate Bane. I have no reason to. I haven't even read the Bane trilogy yet but I intend to.
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I assume most of those were probably your red shirt Brotherhood Sith however I imagine she came across some genuinely strong Sith as well, it'd be ludicrous to assume that not one of them were a good fight.
You don't have to assume that they were all either noobs or total badasses, just find some moderation with a tip of logic.
This is the biggest problem with KMC, unless it's a major blank statement of a feat everyone just auto-assumes that it was featless nameless red shirts with the ability to lift a rock.
Personally I'll never subscribe to that kind of logic.
P.S this is not a rant at you I am just tired of seeing that kind of lowballing.
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I can understand your way of thinking, mate, and it does make sense. And it's not like it's implausible for Lsu to be a better duelist than Vos. But I just don't put stock into something I'm not sure of, because that way things get unnecessarily convoluted and unreliable.
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You ought to read it, a few of my best friends made me respect Bane more than Wookieepedia every did(Not that it was ever a good source to begin with, but hey i was noob then) and Now I'm reading Path Of Destruction and I highly recommend it.
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Lsu takes him.
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Oct 4th, 2014 12:01 AM
Good one pumpkin, anyway. Lsu wins, it's a good fight though.
