I might agree with Neph here. Bane's strength in the Force appears to be greater, so he could wear Dooku down much in the way Anakin does in RotS. Dooku's technical mastery is greater, but not to such an extent as to overcome Bane's superior strength in the Force.
But then again...I'm really not so sure. It's difficult to compare the strengths of the two, and at some point we all get down to arbitrary handwaving.
I'm pretty sure Dooku can take sabers... yeah, Anakin when tapping heavily into Dark Rage was able to wear Dooku out, but aside from that Dooku holds up well enough, and Anakin is both more skilled and stronger than Bane so he has more claim to be tiring Dooku than him anyway. Dooku is just more skilled than Bane by quite a fair bit.
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I do think that Bane has better Force feats; his FL seems to be typically superior, he has a greater understanding of the dark side's various abilities, and PoD suggests a very prodigious learning curve. Dooku is no joke, but Darth Bane has shown himself capable of actually forcefully extracting various DS techniques and growing powerful at a ridiculous rate.
As for sabers? Well, Dooku is clearly more technically skilled with a blade. Bane does have going for him his impressive performance against Kas'im in PoD, but then he also struggles against a small group of random Jedi in RoT, even with his orbalisks. Dooku's accolades clearly place him as a consummate duelist, one that is exceptionally gifted in the history of the Jedi Order. I would normally give the edge to Dooku, were it not that Bane's djem so, immense physical strength and immense strength in the Force just happen to mirror closely the advantages that Anakin always has over Dooku.
You aren't wrong, I just don't see Bane winning in sabers. Anakin was noted as being extraordinarily powerful due to the whole Chosen One shenanigans, and he has somewhat better strength feats than Bane like ripping spider droids apart with his bare hands. But more than that he's just a better duelist than Bane, and was actually in Dooku's tier of skill, whereas Bane is likely a tier or so below Dooku.
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Bane had matched and successfully countered all of Kas'im's moves after, what, a year or two of formal training? The same Kas'im who had mastered every movement to every form?
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Bane took three of them on at a time, one of them being Raska Lsu who many people believe to be Kas'ims equal and all of them were enhanced by battle meditation. And he didn't struggle, he was winning that duel before Zannah stepped in and made it go a hell of a lot faster.
They were also hindered by a nexus (or it was two nexii?), so that would most likely cancel out. Bane, on the other hand, was unquestionably amped by said nexus.
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It was never noted that Bane was receiving an amp of any kind other than his orbalisks. Nexus arguments are bullshit unless there is some in text statement saying that someone was being hindered/amped/drawing on the nexus
I was looking for what he's talking about, but I only found another TK feat for Bane:
"Drawing his lightsaber, he leapt from the cockpit and moved carefully forward until he stood before the black gate. It loomed above him, a giant blast door without handles, hinges, or a visible control panel. Gathering his power, he placed his left palm against the surface. The gate exploded, rupturing inward with a sharp bang that reverberated down the long, dark hallway leading into the fortress."
I never said that he was drawing on it, but let's not pretend the Nexus amp is non existant. A darksider is automatically amped by a nexus just by being there, and that's how it works. There's no need for explicit quotes (which is an excuse used to make amped character look more impressive ) and Tython was a nexus:
Tython, revered by many as the birthplace of the Jedi Order itself, was now a bastion of dark side power, and the location of Belia Darzu's hidden fortress.
-- Rule Of Two
Nexus amps can only be ignored when a darksider stomps another darksider (like Vitiate's mind rape of Scourge).
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Passive amps from nexus's ARE slight. Unless they are actively drawing on the nexus like Zannah then I doesn't matter. Nexus's are just used by people who are loosing an argument to lowball the competition
Jesus Christ.. you really can't make mention of a nexus on this board can you? Is it seriously not reasonable to state that the way we look at feats need to be dialed down if they were performed on a nexus, and that character is no longer on said nexus?
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
Oct 26th, 2014 07:11 PM
It was never noted that Bane was receiving an amp of any kind other than his orbalisks. Nexus arguments are bullshit unless there is some in text statement saying that someone was being hindered/amped/drawing on the nexus
