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Stigma
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Exar Kun vs. Revan

Both at their peak.

Setting: Lehon, Temple of the Ancients

Old school rounds:
1) sabers
2) force
3) all-out

Who wins this?

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Nephthys
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Kun


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Stigma
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Would you say it's close or a solid victory?

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Nephthys
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Revan can certainly give Kun a better fight than he can Vitiate.


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Revanchiste
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Death battle !!!! Thiz iz cloze !!!!!
Zo cloze !!!!

Before awnzering I will make a topic.

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Sinious
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Kun

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Marco1907
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Exar.


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Revanchiste
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I have a 51%/49% with Kun on an other Topic.

Revan iz cappable of hurting Kuun with the force and rezit Kun blow not all of them but.. You know what I mean...

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S_W_LeGenD
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Revan solidly

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Jaggarath
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Revan solidly


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Revanchiste
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It'z a cloze fight I'v already zee thiz before.. ANd I know that CLOZE AZ HELL !!!!!!!

Revan get the force edge with a 8,79 to 6.69/10 (depending of the zetting)
Exaar Kun get the light zaber edge with 6.89/10 (neutral ground...)

Zo the all out....

Revan light zaber zkill are above a battle mazter light zaber zkill..... Exactly twice.

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AncientPower
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Kun no doubt.


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NewGuy01
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They're probably evenly matched tbh.


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Jaggarath
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Eh, Kun's hype doesn't live up to his feats even remotely.


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AncientPower
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Yes it does, two mass drain feats with marginal aid from temples he built are greater feats than anything Revan has.

Sorcery knowledge and powers greater than almost anyone in galactic history.

As nothing more than an essence he was amping Kyp Durron immensely and one shotted Luke Skywalker, tearing his spirit from his body. This is despite the fact he lacked any Force reserves and couldn't draw any power from his temples.

He was creating and twisting everything under the sky, from Terentateks to night beasts and even the Dark Reaper superweapon.

He was completely dominating the likes of Durron and Streen, infact as soon as Kun was cast into the void Durron immediately lacked any Dark Side corruption.

Kun has also displayed high tier feats with Force Flight and even Protection bubbled bombing runs before whilst walking nonchalantly.

Not to mention Force Stunning the senate which apparently had ten thousand members whilst roflstomping Master Baas.


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Yes it does, two mass drain feats with marginal aid from temples he built are greater feats than anything Revan has.

We cannot compare Revan and Exar Kun in this regard because Revan doesn't uses Force Drain extensively.

Revan have relatively superior demonstrations in raw power and combat prowess by the way which are more appropriate to consider for this topic.

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Sorcery knowledge and powers greater than almost anyone in galactic history.

This is a joke, right?

Emperor Vitiate says hello.

Revan is also an absolute master of dark arts, his command and knowledge of the Force outstrip majority in the mythos as apparent from reactions of those who have met him in life and even legends such as Darth Bane. I don't think that Exar Kun have noticeably advantage in this aspect, just that Kun benefits from greater exploration in the lore in the use of dark arts in comparison.

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As nothing more than an essence he was amping Kyp Durron immensely and one shotted Luke Skywalker, tearing his spirit from his body. This is despite the fact he lacked any Force reserves and couldn't draw any power from his temples.

Star Wars: The Essential Chronology contradicts your claim:

Luke Skywalker confronted him there in a titanic duel of Jedi powers. But the spirit of Exar Kun finally revealed himself in order to assist Durron, using all the powers of a Dark Lord of the Sith. Even a Jedi Master could not withstand such an onslaught, and the two of them overwhelmed the Skywalker, leaving him for the dead.

Exar Kun was in the position to unleash his full power while possessing Kyp Durron. In-fact, the aforementioned statement reveals that the latter's own powers also helped.

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He was creating and twisting everything under the sky, from Terentateks to night beasts and even the Dark Reaper superweapon.

Good for him. Now how this helps him against Revan?

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He was completely dominating the likes of Durron and Streen, infact as soon as Kun was cast into the void Durron immediately lacked any Dark Side corruption.

And? They were "padawans" at that time.

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Kun has also displayed high tier feats with Force Flight and even Protection bubbled bombing runs before whilst walking nonchalantly.

Revan can conjure Protection Bubble as well. And can even teleport at will during combat situations (immensely useful talent and fantastic display of command of the Force).

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Not to mention Force Stunning the senate which apparently had ten thousand members whilst roflstomping Master Baas.

He pulled this off with use of amulet, if I am not mistaken. Also, normal individuals ended-up hypnotized but the Jedi remained unaffected. This indicates that some so-called great powers of Exar Kun are useless against those who aren't defenseless.

Not trying to undermine Exar Kun, he is very impressive indeed. However, I am setting the record straight.

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Angelalex242
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Exar probably puts up a better fight as a Sith Spirit...not sure it's enough.

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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD We cannot compare Revan and Exar Kun in this regard because Revan doesn't uses Force Drain extensively.

Revan have relatively superior demonstrations in raw power and combat prowess by the way which are more appropriate to consider for this topic.


I'll take this as a concession on your part.

No he has not, Exar Kun is factually stated to be more powerful (by varying degrees) than the following individuals:

Tulak Hord, Naga Sadow, Ulic Qel-Droma, Vodo Siosk Baas, Odan Urr, Sorzus Syn, Ajunta Pall, Ludo Kressh, Freedon Nadd, Ood Bnar, Nomi Sunrider, Arca Jeth, Vandar, XoXaan, Marka Ragnos, Aleema Keto and perhaps more important than any of them, the Sith Emperor as of 4040BBY.

This due to the statements that Kun was far more powerful than any one Jedi of his time and is also stated to have once been the most powerful Sith Lord ever, later surpassed by the Sith Emperor of course 300 years later.

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Emperor Vitiate says hello.

Revan is also an absolute master of dark arts, his command and knowledge of the Force outstrip majority in the mythos as apparent from reactions of those who have met him in life and even legends such as Darth Bane. I don't think that Exar Kun have noticeably advantage in this aspect, just that Kun benefits from greater exploration in the lore in the use of dark arts in comparison.


Emperor Vitiate has one shotted Revan twice, using him is a terrible example on your part.

Revan has not shown any major sorcery knowledge beyond the Thought Bomb and an unknown list of other techniques in his holocron.

Exar Kun has the full knowledge of Naga Sadow and Freedon Nadd and has been listed as one of the greatest sorcerers of all time, compared even to Reborn Palpatine. Infact it is stated that it is highly unlikely that the full knowledge of sorcery survived Kun's death.

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Star Wars: The Essential Chronology contradicts your claim:

Luke Skywalker confronted him there in a titanic duel of Jedi powers. But the spirit of Exar Kun finally revealed himself in order to assist Durron, using all the powers of a Dark Lord of the Sith. Even a Jedi Master could not withstand such an onslaught, and the two of them overwhelmed the Skywalker, leaving him for the dead.

Exar Kun was in the position to unleash his full power while possessing Kyp Durron. In-fact, the aforementioned statement reveals that the latter's own powers also helped.


Said quote ignores the statement that Kyp's powers were feeble in comparison to Kun's and Kun was draining on the emotions/reserves of others such as when he drained Gantoris.

Also the only powers Kyp used were through Kun himself which were a crystal corruption technique and a black variant of Force Lightning that Kyp never displayed any other time.

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Good for him. Now how this helps him against Revan?


It proves Kun's prowess as a sorcerer and reinforces his position as one of the greatest sorcerers that ever lived.


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and? They were "padawans" at that time.


Padawans? Please do further research they were Force prodigies in ages of 20 and over with much experience, Luke Skywalker states they were Jedi Knights not even a month after the Kun events.

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Revan can conjure Protection Bubble as well. And can even teleport at will during combat situations (immensely useful talent and fantastic display of command of the Force).


Just because he has the knowledge doesn't mean he will perform to the same degree. He can teleport whilst amped and on a platform with which evidently everyone was able to teleport(the operation variant that is).

Exar Kun is able to effortlessly absorb and/or shrug off high techniques of the magnitude of Sever Force and Force Blast from such powerful Jedi as Odan Urr.

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He pulled this off with use of amulet, if I am not mistaken. Also, normal individuals ended-up hypnotized but the Jedi remained unaffected. This indicates that some so-called great powers of Exar Kun are useless against those who aren't defenseless.

Not trying to undermine Exar Kun, he is very impressive indeed. However, I am setting the record straight.

The amulet is only ever stated to allow him to channel his rage and only then via Force Blast. You are ignoring the magnitude of the ability which is in actual fact the largest use of Force Stun on record, 10,000.

You also fail to take into account that he utterly destroyed Vodo Siosk Baas whilst doing so.


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Angelalex242
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Depends on what kind of sorcery you're talking about. Vitiate was master of 'spend 3 months on a ritual' type Sorcery. Exar Kun was more a fan of spells he could 'quick cast.'

Vitaite's 3 months long rituals tend not to help him in duels, after all.

Anyway's, Kun's best tricks as a duelist is his ability to constantly change the size of the weapon and the forms he's using. Playing a trickery game isn't likely to help against a dedicated precognition guy.

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