__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
I agree, Wrath dominates, though I will give backing to why I believe so. Wrath is known to take a beating and just as easily deal one out, where Fisto seems to just be more offensive. I believe that with the ability to do both offence and defense effectively gives him/her an edge.
Well he outduelled the Jedi's best lightsaber instructor and the greatest student he'd ever had at the same time as an apprentice. Defeated Marka Ragnos' pet Terentatek and one of the greatest Sith Overseers ever as an acolyte. Defeated a Jedi so powerful he was labelled a superweapon before he'd grown much more powerful by reaching enlightenment. Defeated 3 Dark Council members, one of which was one of the greatest Sith Assassins in history who was thought to be equal to any weapon the Empire had ever produced and another was Darth Baras. Resisted the Dread Masters mental influence solo. And defeated the Emperor's Voice after it had been possessed by the godlike Sel Makor, a being so powerful it was stated to be a threat to all life in the galaxy.
Fisto is powerful too, and has better combat feats and hype, IMO: credited as being a better duelist than Cin, being picked over him to arrest Sidious; referred to as one of the greatest lightsaber wielders in history by numerous characters; is at the top of his order, which was considered the prime of the jedi order, making his position a hard one to fill; slapped Grievous (who has consistently given jedi like Kenobi a struggle) around a bit; his force speed was such that it startled even Kenobi, who had witnessed beings like Darth Maul fight; has matched strength with the shark general on mon calamari, a beast who busted through a huge underwater tunnel with his head; has hurled big objects at great speed, despite being in underwater pressure; has casually lifted a giant capsule filled with liquid.
Fisto isn't going down easily, if at all.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Again, the Wrath beat the Jedi Order's best lightsaber instructor AND the best student the guy had ever had at the same time without breaking a sweat. As a mere apprentice a few months after training on Korriban.
Picked as the Emperor's Wrath. Picked to kill the Emperor's Voice. Picked to beat Baras. Picked for the Strike Team made up of the Empire's greatest champions.
One of, if not the best warrior in the Swtor Sith Empire. Referred to as having "unstoppable might", with "unrivaled strength in battle" and lightsaber skill and "one of the most powerful Sith in the galaxy".
Oh jesus.
Bluh bluh and the Wrath was chosen out of millions of Sith as the best warrior in the Empire, which was considered a vast improvement over the Golden Age of the Sith bluh bluh bluh wank wank wank.
Master Wyellett was literally considered a superweapon by the Republic before he spent 20 years communing with the Force and massively increasing in power. Not even to mention beating the Emperor's Voice, who was possessed by Sel Makor in the heart of his power. I'd put those above General Grievous any day. Especially considering that was Joke Grievous who is kind of shit.
And then Fisto lost to Ventress, yeah.
Which would indicate how much momentum he can get while swimming, not his strength.
Yawn.
He'd get his ass handed to him almost as easily as Sidious did tbh.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
No worse than Fisto's. He's killed with force pushes, ripped metal apart and thrown heavy objects. But he's also resisted the Dread Master's telepathy through his power in the Force. The same guys who can destroy fleets and extend their power across entire planets. A tiny fraction of one of the Dread Masters allowed an Esh-ka to obliterate a massive statue with TK. The Wraths also able to contain lightning into his blade and throw it at opponents, something that's supposed to be near impossible.
I never said he had worse force feats than Fisto, I asked what force feats he had.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
He has a lot of minor (and some good) showings here:
Also I'd forgotten until now but as I recall it, amusingly one of the Wraths companions was indicated to have solo'd about a thousand republic troops at one point. Likely because no-one checked how big a battalion actually was, lol.
At 8:52 does he oneshot that one Jedi with the Golden lightsaber with TK along with those troops, or did he dodge it?
Other than that he's pretty good, moving faster than that one Jedi who charged him could react too at 7:29, deflecting multiple blaster bolts with one hand, killing that guy with a huge metal slab, and striking a Jedi with lightning before he could react are all good feats.
Not sure where to place him atm in terms of skill.
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
Last edited by carthage on Feb 24th, 2015 at 11:22 AM
I'd say he'd have problems with his power at the very least. I doubt speed would be an issue for Wrath, the guy more or less blitzed a Jedi that was charging him/killed a Jedi with lightning before he could deflect it. Fisto's best TK showing is moving a huge canister iirc, Wrath dropped a huge slab of ceiling and killed multiple troopers/a Jedi before he could react. He's clearly more powerful and his form could prove problematic for Shii Cho
Fisto might be more skilled, but the power edge goes to Wrath
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
I have no control over how you react. It's just hard to disagree with you without you getting so angry. You start to lowball and mock certain characters, and when it's done back to the characters you argue in favor for, you act as if you're being victimized or trolled.
__________________ "The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of" -Darth Plagueis
Feb 23rd, 2015 08:19 PM
