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I thought it was TPM Sidious being on Plagueis's level that made him so great.
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Hence why I find them being on par with each other more impressive for Sheev than Plagueis.
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While I do think Sidious constantly grew more powerful, there is no reason to think that the gap between TCW Sidious and TPM Sidious is that big. He was already 50 years old and its just 10 years spent on ruling the republic and executing Order 66.
He shouldn't have grown more skilled, at least; his only duel during that period was with Maul, and perhaps sparring with Dooku.
That being said, he did become more powerful with the death of Plagueis, and over the course of the PT he probably amassed and practiced more DS knowledge and such.
Still, TPM Sidious via power scaling and his showings against Maul should still be above the likes of Caedus and Krayt. Plagueis being supposedly his peer is pretty impressive on his end.
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Are you implying Apprentice TPM Sheev>Plagueis?
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@DMB - Just prior to killing Plagueis, Sidious was his rival (in other words, equal, or give or take a notch). After killing him, his power grew and surpassed Plagueis' entirely.
Anyway, Plagueis wins. His power, knowledge and mastery of the Force all transcend Krayt's, and so do his physical attributes. I wouldn't hand him the skill edge over Krayt, but he doesn't need it to win. Still, it's a good fight.
Last edited by SunRazer on Aug 9th, 2015 at 01:09 AM
Plagueis sweeps.
While has only a few feats, most-if not all- of them are impressive.
His speed and strenght feats are above Krayt, imo, and his Durability is at least comparable.
For his raw power and mastery speaks his Midichlorian manipulation, and his unbalancing of the force. Granted, both of them aren´t combat apliccable.
But powerscaling is where Plagueis shines. He is vastly superior to the likes of Bane and Zannah(I suppose you know their feats?) and >/= TPM Sidious. We have no reason to suggest that RotS Sidious >> TPM Sidious- and RotS is the canonically most powerful Sith of all time(IIRC, even EoTPM Sidious is).
For his lightsaber skill speaks that he has beaten Venamis- someone who knew Plagueis form perfectly, and was implied to be Tenebrous (nigh-)equal; who was also >>>>>>>Bane/Zannah.