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Count Dooku, Quinlan Vos & Asajj Ventress vs. Darth Nox, Wrath II & Satele Shan
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Count Dooku, Quinlan Vos & Asajj Ventress vs. Darth Nox, Wrath II & Satele Shan

Battle takes place on Lothal.

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Satele is a weak link in skill but on the flip side so is Ventress due to vastly inferior force abilities to team 2. Wrath loses to Vos but he can kill Ventress in a duel or with the force, and Vos can stomp Satele. No idea how Nox vs. Dooku goes, but it could go either way depending on which of the weak links dies first


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Satele is a weak link in skill but on the flip side so is Ventress due to vastly inferior force abilities to team 2. Wrath loses to Vos but he can kill Ventress in a duel or with the force, and Vos can stomp Satele. No idea how Nox vs. Dooku goes, but it could go either way depending on which of the weak links dies first


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Did a pretty huge feat comparison for Nox vs Dooku that I never posted a while ago, TBH.

The TL;DR of it was that Nox is a more powerful Force User, and would edge out the dear Count in a contest of the Force. He's a vastly superior duelist however, and Nox's force advantage isn't enough to take Dooku out quickly, where Dooku's blade advantage definitely could. I'd say Dooku takes a fair majority of their fights.


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Did a pretty huge feat comparison for Nox vs Dooku that I never posted a while ago, TBH.


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@Selenial, what's your opinion on this matchup as a whole?


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Ever so slightly leaning team two, myself.

I've got Satele below Ventress, but not by too much, but I'd say the Wrath would take down Vos pretty handily and that tips the scales. Though I'm one of those people that say Vos is morbidly overrated.


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I remember.

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I've got it on a google doc tbh, just saving it for whenever it becomes relevant again.

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I'm one of those people that say Vos is morbidly overrated.


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Fairly good matchup, however I give team 2 the win every time. Satele is definitely Ventress' superior in Force, but lower in sabers. Their difference in Force strength is considerable enough for Satele to win. On top of that her tutaminis is incredible and if she were backed up in a saber duel she could definitely pull herself out of it. Wrath vs Vos is a long duel but probably wouldn't be decided before one of his teammates finished theirs and helps out. They're very closely matched in sabers, though I'd argue Vos is ever so slightly better, and Wrath is stronger in Force, so I'd imagine it would be a drawn out duel. Now Nox vs Dooku has been a repeated argument which I don't understand how it hasn't hasn't been dropped yet. Dooku definitely has the saber advantage, however Nox has solme solid saber skill with a saberstaff, as well as so many defenses and healing skills that I doubt any advantage Dooku has would be nullified by Nox's defensive skills. Her healing prowess, Force barriers, mind corrupting powers, and Shroud ability are more than enough to outmaneuver Tyranus in any melee confrontation. This far I haven't even scratched her Force advantage, which is much wider than too many people accept. As of now, now being KotFE, her powers have massively grown. He has gained further immortality, learned new sorceries and techniques, and dark side secrets that only she has access to because of her position as the leader of the Pyramid of Ancient Knowledge on the Dark Council, and her obvious ghost amp that she can call upon at any time. Her Force prowess is immense, and I'd argue dwarfs Tyranus. Now despite this I would go as far as to say that their fight wouln't be a short one. He could potentially keep the pressure on for a while, but ultimately would meet a gruesom end. Team 2 very comfortably, probably not even with any casualties.


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Can you send me the Nox/Dooku comparison? I don't know much about Nox.

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Ventress is a weaker link, but Team 1 wins anyway.


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Can you send me the Nox/Dooku comparison? I don't know much about Nox.


Nox has absorbed and bonded 4 dark side ghosts of powerful ancient Sith, as well as a Voss Mystic. She uses a double bladed lightsaber (saberstaff), manipulates the Force to an unreal digree, capable of slapping the blasts of Force Lightning fired by Darth Thanaton aside with her bare hands. Thanaton was stated in his lore to be one of the strongest Sith Sorcerers in centuries. She was physically modified and reconstructed by Rakatan machines that prolonged her life by several "solar cycles." She has studied ancient and powerful dark side sorceries and rituals that have multiplied her strength. She has mastered the techniques of Force Shroud, making her invisible, as well as using Force Lightning at an unbelievably sofisticated digree; on top of that knowing dozens of Sith Sorcery techniques and Force Healing powers almost unrivaled in her time.

Dooku is one of the greatest lightsaber duelists in history. His mastery of the dark side is considerable, overwhelming powerful members of the Jedi Order on multiple occasions. He knows many different Force techniques, however he never truly committed to mastering many of them; rather learning to an advanced digree but never to a truly masterful one.


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Nox has absorbed and bonded 4 dark side ghosts of powerful ancient Sith, as well as a Voss Mystic. She uses a double bladed lightsaber (saberstaff), manipulates the Force to an unreal digree, capable of slapping the blasts of Force Lightning fired by Darth Thanaton aside with her bare hands. Thanaton was stated in his lore to be one of the strongest Sith Sorcerers in centuries. She was physically modified and reconstructed by Rakatan machines that prolonged her life by several "solar cycles." She has studied ancient and powerful dark side sorceries and rituals that have multiplied her strength. She has mastered the techniques of Force Shroud, making her invisible, as well as using Force Lightning at an unbelievably sofisticated digree; on top of that knowing dozens of Sith Sorcery techniques and Force Healing powers almost unrivaled in her time.

Dooku is one of the greatest lightsaber duelists in history. His mastery of the dark side is considerable, overwhelming powerful members of the Jedi Order on multiple occasions. He knows many different Force techniques, however he never truly committed to mastering many of them; rather learning to an advanced digree but never to a truly masterful one.


Sounds like Nox has a lot of accolades but very few measurable feats.

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I've got Satele below Ventress.

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LMFAO


Ant I need to ask you about a certain feat of Bane's.

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You can ask me... The guy who spent hours reading through the trilogy over and over again and making a 2 part RT for him.


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Which is why asking you a question about Bane's feats is almost as bad as asking Ant a question about Revan's.

Also, on Ton's part, that's a lot of speculation. For one thing, he's assuming that Nox chose the path of a Sith Assassin, which is almost certainly wrong at this point. But those kinds of issues tend to happen when you're discussing a player-controlled game character with no other source material to draw off on.


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