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Vader can't beat a bunch of Kursid warriors, and obviously Tenebrous has a ton of skill feats.
Let's argue based on how far he is on the Banite line and nebulous quotes about his force power rather than feats
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Rivi Anu had a moment of oneness or likely gave herself fully to te force to accomplish her feat in an analogous situation to Ganner Rhysode. But yeah one stupid showing with obvious ambiguous factors >>> countless accolades from Canon/Legends calling Vader among the powerful of Sith Lords and Sidious saying he was unparalled in Tarkin.
Great argument Nova
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You argued for Vader, not for Tenebrous. So by that logic, Rivi-Anu still trumps Tenebrous?
Anyway, Tenebrous is hardly deficient in feats. The areas where we do see him use his powers, bar telekinesis, includes him having better feats than Vader - Barrier, Speed, Sense, etc.
There's nothing "nebulous" about Tenebrous' quotes at all. Multiple sources from different authors make it abundantly clear that each Sith Lord in the Banite line is more powerful than the last, and Tenebrous has spent perhaps over a century mastering the dark side. Even if the quote referred to raw power, it's completely fair to assume that Tenebrous mastered that raw power.
^^ also uncertainty =/= proof of weakness. We defer to the most probable conclusion, i.e. that Tenebrous is below Plagueis but not by such a huge amount that it would imply Bane to be Coleman Trebor level.
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You're saying this as if Carthage would have a problem with Bane being coleman trebor level.
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I'm not dismissing anything he's obviously leagues above Bane in terms of feats, but applying Banite scaling can easily apply to Vader given Hes vastly above any of Banes order given we have no idea how powerful they are and how much his feats shit on Bane's.
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Banite scaling can't directly apply to Vader, since he never surpasses Palpatine. At most, the fact that he can even remotely kiss Sidious's boots suggest that he could atomize Bane and Zannah easily, but we already knew that from his feats.
We know how powerful Bane is, and how powerful Sidious is, so Tenebrous should be like twenty times closer to Sidious than he is to Bane.
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Gee, Tenebrous seems to be hella overrated and hella underrated right now. Look he ain't beating Vader but he's putting up a fight, he's no pushover. Tenebrous is probably just above the likes of DD Ventress Sabers wise and stronger in the force so I see him beating most TCW Council members but he's no Vader, Windu, Yoda.
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Darth Tenebrous vs ANH Darth Vader (Legends)
Jul 3rd, 2016 12:41 AM
As you know, he has Bane at Qui Gon level, and once PoD Bane slightly below ESB Luke.
