It comes down to... which do you think is more impressive, shifting an Imperial Star Destroyer, or literally pulling an Endar Spire-sized ship out of the sky.
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Unsupported statements based on nothing but hearsay. There's literally no evidence for a single one of Hord's "feats." Just hype. The codex for Tulak Hord doesn't support anything Khem has said; it is what Khem Val said,
which is not evidence within itself. You have no proof for that final statement, and even if you did, we saw Marek move a much larger object ourselves. A primary source trumps a secondary source, not to mention Marek's feat is far more impressive. Like by bounds.
I'm not even going to comment on using gimmicks that are gameplay only as actual showings.
Yeah, it kind of did. Not that you really had an argument.
You are using the codex as a source, as there is literally no other codex about Tulak Hord's showings, and character really, in the entire game, and that is the only statement about his power.
No, no, it's not. It's a historian talking about what was believed to be accounted about in said battle.
You are talking about Hord's other "feats," like claiming he sat his army there and made them watch him fight thousands of Jedi at once and alone. Considering Khem claims he was feasting during said battle and took part in it, no Khem does not support you, or himself for that matter, and the only actual showing you can claim he legit saw was hitting the Endar Spire-sized ship, which Marek has a superior showing to. That was the point, incase this was too difficult for you to grasp. The rest is hype, none of which any codex even speaks on let alone supports.
But according to Val, he did single-handedly break the siege of Yn, and also defeated Val himself.
Also, Marek didn't directly move the ship, he diverted it and just barely stopped it.
Hord straight up pulled the ****ing ship OUT OF THE SKY using his own force power.
Kreia and Chris Avellone seem to agree with one another about the Hord thing btw.
The thing with the ancients is, if you don't take the hype seriously, then its impossible to really use them in versus matches unless you use people like Muur, Kun, or Nadd, who all have impressive feats.
Because there are the half that believe in the hype, and the other half that don't believe it.
People like me, SKILLZ, Nai, NewGuy, and others believe in the hype.
Then you have people like Bart, Freshest and others who choose not to believe it.
The hype can't be proven or disproven, but by using power scaling, the Ancients can be somewhat properly ranked, using Muur as the starting pedestal and Ragnos as the ending.
(I would say Kun, but he has enough feats to back up his hype).
In all honesty, when has a character showed in SW that had big hype, but was lousy?
If there's no consensus on this, I don't see the point of putting them in battles if people won't agree on what is what. If you can't prove or disprove, then I don't see how it's possible to use these guys as far as battles go. Especially since there's a divide.
Thanks Scribble!
Sep 12th, 2016 10:30 AM
