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Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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Krayt takes it.


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Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

I'll make a quick case for Maul:

Lightsaber skill:
I'll start with both combatant prowess with a lightsaber, we've seen how Krayt (as A'Sharad Hett) took on Obi-Wan on Tatooine and despite that the latter was far more inexperienced fighting in the sands and he wanted to avoid killing Hett, he still dominated Hett the moment he actually got serious (when thinking about the fact that he was fighting for Luke's life).

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Ben blocked each blow, but he wasn't doing it with ease. Hett was far more experienced at fighting on the sand and in the desert heat. Ben knew that his opponent would never surrender, let alone withdraw. As much as he hoped to avoid killing Hett, he also knew that they couldn't keep fighting indefinitely. But in the end, Ben knew he wasn't fighting for his own life. He was fighting for Luke's . Quickly raising his left hand, Ben used the Force to push out at Hett, shoving him back through the air as Ben's lightsaber swept up and through Hett's right arm. Hett shouted as his arm fell away from his body. As Hett stumbled back, Ben used the Force to tear Hett's other lightsaber from his left hand's grip. Both of Hett's lightsabers deactivated as they sailed past Ben and landed in the sand behind him.


Now it's clear that Hett was no match for Obi-Wan and was taken out pretty handily once Kenobi let go of his restraints despite the advantages the environment presented him and while it's true that he as Darth Krayt advanced in power and skill, the idea that he would make up for that gap is unfunded (leaving aside the discussion of who's the better Maul or Obi-Wan).

H2H combat:
Both Krayt and Maul are actually pretty well trained in H2H combat, e.g. both mastered Teras Kasi, but I still think Maul is better in this area because of the fact that he demonstrated his prowess against better opponents then Krayt has(e.g. Maul disarming Savage Opress).

Force Power:
In terms of Force Power Krayt has been named as vastly more powerful then the other Sith of his Order (including Wyyrlock, Nihl, Talon,...) while Maul as a (true) Sith Apprentice is placed above characters like Ventress, Sedriss, Grand Inquisitor, ... and by feats he's demonstrated to be Obi-Wan's, Grand Inquisitor's, Seventh Sister's, ... superior. I believe that Maul's power in the Force, especially in the area of TK, is superior because of how he dominated Obi-Wan who has lifted up giant airships years before AotC and his superiority over the GI (who himself is superior to the other Inquisitors who are again superior/comparable to Kanan) when realising how Kanan was lifting up giant catwalks years before Rebels and the fact that the Inquisitors were raising the Jedi Temple on Lothal (which is between 84 -100 meters in height) despite the Temple only allowing Light Side users in.

On a side note, Krayt's lightning might prove difficult for Maul to counter in certain scenarios.

Conclusion:
Maul's shown to be superior in all relevant areas of combat (lightsaber skill, H2H combat and Force Power) by accolades and feats.

EDIT: I only now saw that it's only a Force battle stick out tongue


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Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
I'll make a quick case for Maul:



[U]Force Power
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In terms of Force Power Krayt has been named as vastly more powerful then the other Sith of his Order (including Wyyrlock, Nihl, Talon,...) while Maul as a (true) Sith Apprentice is placed above characters like Ventress, Sedriss, Grand Inquisitor, ... and by feats he's demonstrated to be Obi-Wan's, Grand Inquisitor's, Seventh Sister's, ... superior.

What? Guys like Wyyrlok aren't true Sith apprentices, then? laughing
Also, Krayt is vastly superior to a guy, whois vastlysuperior to a Ventress-level Force User.
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believe that Maul's power in the Force, especially in the area of TK, is superior because of how he dominated Obi-Wan who has lifted up giant airships years before AotC and his superiority over the GI (who himself is superior to the other Inquisitors who are again superior/comparable to Kanan) when realising how Kanan was lifting up giant catwalks years before Rebels and the fact that the Inquisitors were raising the Jedi Temple on Lothal (which is between 84 -100 meters in height) despite the Temple only allowing Light Side users in.

Krayt is vastly(and I mean vastly superior to Wredd, who has the awesome sattelite showing.
Also, proof for the fat showings?
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Maul's shown to be superior in all relevant areas of combat (Force Power) by accolades

Nope.


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Re: Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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Originally posted by Ursumeles
What? Guys like Wyyrlok aren't true Sith apprentices, then? laughing


A worty Sith Apprentice to Sidious.

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Also, Krayt is vastly superior to a guy, whois vastlysuperior to a Ventress-level Force User.


Proof?

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Krayt is vastly(and I mean vastly superior to Wredd, who has the awesome sattelite showing.


We don't know if Krayt's vastly superior to the version of Wredd while he also had help. The Inquisitors actually raising a 100m Jedi Temple on Lothal is far more impressive since it's working against gravity compared to collapsing a sattelite which would only require to destroy the supports.

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Also, proof for the fat showings?


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu41kru8VMw it starts at 0:16

Kanan looked instead upward, waving with his hand – and suspending the giant catwalk in midair, centimeters from his and Hera’s heads.
She stared at it, dumbfounded – and then at him. Self-conscious, Kanan shoved at the air, pushing the levitated mass off to the side. It landed with a colossal crash.


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Re: Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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Originally posted by Ursumeles
Also, Krayt is vastly superior to a guy, who is vastlysuperior to a Ventress-level Force User.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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Eh, Krayt is superior to a guy, who is drastically above a Ventress-levwl force user.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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Originally posted by Ursumeles
Eh, Krayt is superior to a guy, who is drastically above a Ventress-level force user.


Specify.


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Eh, I 'll show you jow I rank the Legacy chars, forcewise:

Tyranus >~ Vong Krayt > Wyyrlok ~ Dreypa > Cade > Maul > Ventress >~ Nihl > Talon.


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Originally posted by Ursumeles
Eh, I 'll show you jow I rank the Legacy chars, forcewise:

Tyranus >~ Vong Krayt > Wyyrlok ~ Dreypa > Cade > Maul > Ventress >~ Nihl > Talon.


Wut? But makes sense, although I'd have at least Cade on Dreypa's level.


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Wut? But makes sense, although I'd have at least Cade on Dreypa's level.

Could be. It could also be Wyyrlok ~ Cade > Dreypa, imho.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Eh, I 'll show you jow I rank the Legacy chars, forcewise:

Tyranus> Maul > Vong Krayt > Wyyrlok ~ Dreypa > Cade > Ventress >~ Nihl > Talon.


Indeed, I agree with this. Seriously though, it actually like to see some proof since until now it's just been the "I like that character more so he's better" game.


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Nope.


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Maul > Krayt then, I accept your concession.


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Krayt > Wyyrlok >> Nihl > Talon > Stryfe > Havok > Draco > Wolf Sazen >> Sith Trooper > Average Knight > Average Padawan > Maul


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Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

quote: (post)
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
I'll make a quick case for Maul:

Lightsaber skill:
I'll start with both combatant prowess with a lightsaber, we've seen how Krayt (as A'Sharad Hett) took on Obi-Wan on Tatooine and despite that the latter was far more inexperienced fighting in the sands and he wanted to avoid killing Hett, he still dominated Hett the moment he actually got serious (when thinking about the fact that he was fighting for Luke's life).



Now it's clear that Hett was no match for Obi-Wan and was taken out pretty handily once Kenobi let go of his restraints despite the advantages the environment presented him and while it's true that he as Darth Krayt advanced in power and skill, the idea that he would make up for that gap is unfunded (leaving aside the discussion of who's the better Maul or Obi-Wan).

H2H combat:
Both Krayt and Maul are actually pretty well trained in H2H combat, e.g. both mastered Teras Kasi, but I still think Maul is better in this area because of the fact that he demonstrated his prowess against better opponents then Krayt has(e.g. Maul disarming Savage Opress).

Force Power:
In terms of Force Power Krayt has been named as vastly more powerful then the other Sith of his Order (including Wyyrlock, Nihl, Talon,...) while Maul as a (true) Sith Apprentice is placed above characters like Ventress, Sedriss, Grand Inquisitor, ... and by feats he's demonstrated to be Obi-Wan's, Grand Inquisitor's, Seventh Sister's, ... superior. I believe that Maul's power in the Force, especially in the area of TK, is superior because of how he dominated Obi-Wan who has lifted up giant airships years before AotC and his superiority over the GI (who himself is superior to the other Inquisitors who are again superior/comparable to Kanan) when realising how Kanan was lifting up giant catwalks years before Rebels and the fact that the Inquisitors were raising the Jedi Temple on Lothal (which is between 84 -100 meters in height) despite the Temple only allowing Light Side users in.

On a side note, Krayt's lightning might prove difficult for Maul to counter in certain scenarios.

Conclusion:
Maul's shown to be superior in all relevant areas of combat (lightsaber skill, H2H combat and Force Power) by accolades and feats.

EDIT: I only now saw that it's only a Force battle stick out tongue
F*cking hilarious.


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This post editing debating must be the most cancerous, childish, cringy shit I've seen my entire miserable life. And I've seen some top tier cancer before.


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Now we've entered the "I can't answer so I'm going to put out troll comments" phase, funny.


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Re: Re: Re: Vong Krayt vs Darth Maul(Force only)

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F*cking hilarious.


Then counter it buddy.


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Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Now we've entered the "I can't answer so I'm going to put out troll comments" phase, funny.

I'll answer tomorrow.
If Beni/Zoltan/whoever wants, he can do it instead.


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