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TPM Darth Maul vs AOTC Obi Wan
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TPM Darth Maul vs AOTC Obi Wan

1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All out

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Maul stomps


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In all honesty I think this would be a close match. Probably Maul in the end though.


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Maul absolutely dominates him


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Maul after a decent fight.


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Maul after a decent fight.


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This would be a replay of Jinn on Tatooine, except Obi-Wan would die more quickly.


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Not seeing how. He's fought Maul before and has access to Soresu. That's a pretty big advantage over Qui-Gon - he's definitely lasting longer.

If Obi-Wan was already a near-equal to Qui-Gon in TPM, it doesn't make much sense that he wouldn't have surpassed him in AotC, given that he's at such a young age that he wouldn't be hitting random stumps or diminishing returns, and we know Obi-Wan's potential exceeds Qui-Gon's. And as much as the Clone Wars is a period of accelerated growth, it doesn't make much sense for Obi-Wan to have grown much more in 3 years than in 10.

That, and he had an arguably better performance against Dooku than Qui-Gon did against Maul, taking into account Dooku's encyclopedic form knowledge on Obi-Wan's Ataru, that Obi-Wan was fatigued (at least for the junior novel's interpretation) and the fact that Tyranus is a better swordsman than Maul.

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Well yeah, if we base all of our assumptions on false premises then AotC Kenobi could be better than Jinn. Issue is, there's no real evidence for it. And he wasn't quite a near equal, just close.


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There's no false premise. Comparing his showing against Dooku to Qui-Gon's showing against Maul is perfectly valid.

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Darth Maul.

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Dooku wasn't going all out against Kenobi, so the comparison falls flat.

Which leaves us only with Dooku "expecting better" from Jinn's Padawan.


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Yeah, that's the problem with the comparison I was hinting at earlier, although it seems to be contradicted by some sources. And it's probably made up for Obi-Wan's exhaustion, at least in the junior novel.

In any case, Jinn's performance against Maul on Tatooine doesn't set a very high benchmark.

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Dooku always seemed to play with Obi-Wan, Maul was just straight up hammering Jinn down on Tatooine.


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Maul after a decent fight.

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Maul wins.


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Maul a level 8, Kenobi still only a level 7 at this point. So Maul wins and it's not particularly close.

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Yeah, that's the problem with the comparison I was hinting at earlier, although it seems to be contradicted by some sources. And it's probably made up for Obi-Wan's exhaustion, at least in the junior novel.

In any case, Jinn's performance against Maul on Tatooine doesn't set a very high benchmark.
Yet he still falls short, sad. smile


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Well yeah, if we base all of our assumptions on false premises then AotC Kenobi could be better than Jinn. Issue is, there's no real evidence for it. And he wasn't quite a near equal, just close.


AotC Kenobi is as powerful as Windu


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AotC Kenobi is as powerful as Windu

Okay.
That puts Dooku faaar above Windu smile smile smile


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