Orbalisk Bane vs. Darth Malgus, Count Dooku, Galen Marek
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Force sabers all out
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Galen's feats and performance against Sidious put him above Dooku for me. I agree that Dooku is far above Bane, but Bane is almost certainly above Malgus by virtue of his superior feats and holistic scaling; you can put him way beyond his Temple feat in Lehon. Also, Orbalisks.
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Bane broke the base walls of a temple that was lesser than twenty meters tall( even the stairs were intact), leading to its collapse, with a charged up force blast, that utterly drained his force reserves.
Granted ROT Bane scales above him but the feat itself couldn't be more ordinary.
Dooku is vastly above Bane, obviously, and I have no issues with putting Galen on his level( above or below is up for interpretation, and I haven't gone into that yet). But putting Malgus "far" above Bane is kind of reaching. Though you may not necessarily have made that assertion, because of Orbalisks, but I am just saying.
Eh, no. If the temple is stated to be 20 m, it "is" 20 m. Not to mention, the descriptions of the area surrounding it and the temple itself are way off. The two are not the same.
This one from the photo looks like the same temple from KoToR, so yeah, the two aren't the same. In fact, the landscape of the two even there are quite different because the that one has a pretty big clearing surrounding it. But this is way, way too different from the one in PoD.
Last edited by LordOfTheLight on Feb 10th, 2018 at 10:05 PM
Uh, no. It's the same temple. Bane even senses and talks about the barrier from the game. He specifically looked for the Temple of the Ancients because he knew Revan had been there. He also finds Revan's holocron in it when iirc Darth Revan only visited the temple once.
That its called 20 m is irrelevant. I suggest you look up what a retcon is before you continue. And Karpyshan calls it a pyramid because its probably the closest, easiest description for it.
Not at all, lol. Bane searches the mind of a random rancor, and just so happens to find a random temple, which he then proceeds to go to. There is no specific desire to find "Revan's temple". Any references to Revan at all, were "histories" of the Star Forge's destruction and the battle. And right alongside that, there are several passages dedicated to the "Rakata" the ancient dark civilization that "nearly conquered" the galaxy, and who Bane muses "might have been the first servants of the dark side". So, you'll excuse me if I don't subscribe to that theory.
Retcon? Right, right. There is this temple from KoToR, looks pretty big, around 50 m, or probably bigger, like a cylindrical building, but with 4 spires from the sides, and then we have Drew giving the description of a random temple which by the way, is utterly different from the temple in KoToR after that. Then mysteriously, we have, in SWTOR, the exact same temple we saw in KoToR( except the surrounding areas).
So, what you are saying is that a temple structure was proposed in KoToR and it was retconned by PoD, and then, retconned again by SWTOR? Not to mention, that if the description of the structures matched even remotely, then the 20 m thing would be an anomaly, and you would probably be right, but they are so vastly different, that it didn't occur to your brilliant mind that, maybe, just maybe, the temples are different?
As for this:
"And Karpyshan calls it a pyramid because its probably the closest, easiest description for it."
Lmfao. Are you serious?
Karpyshyn calls it a "four sided stone pyramid". In case you need things to be spoonfed to you, he also calls a holocron as a "four sided pyramid".
It's the same temple. The Databank entry on the Star Forge only mentions there being a single temple and the Essential Atlas suggests theres nothing on the planet except the Temple of the Ancients. It even has the same computer in the basement. That Bane specifically references the barrier from the game is the obvious indication its the same temple. And since the Rakata in the game are the only Rakata left on the planet, its impossible for Bane to be referencing a different temple.
As opposed to Bane stumbling upon another random temple with the same barrier and the same computer than just happens to have Revan's holocron in it even though Revan never explored the planet outside of the temple? Yeah, its a retcon or Drew just messed up the description.
Drew is an incompetent author. If there are any inconsistencies in his descriptions thats the reason. The "four sides" are just his way of describing the spires.
Orbalisk Bane vs. Darth Malgus, Count Dooku, Galen Marek
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