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Celeste Morne, Starkiller (TFU2), Satele Shan, Darth Zannah run the gauntlet
The strongest incarnations of Celeste Morne, Starkiller, Satele Shan, and Darth Zannah at their prime. Celeste isn't conflicted about using the talisman/Dark Side.
Zannah is burried in banite scaling. She is out of her deph.
Starkiller is around TFU 2 Vader level who per Lucas (who is WOG for legends) is sub Jinn.
Celeste's best feat while using the talisman was her fight with the weakest version of Vong Krayt. Not bad, but certainly not enough here.
Satele is decent but she would lose to anyone of team PT. She is vastly sub Outlander who is cannonicaly sub Yoda and ROTS Sidious. Kenobi (based on his fight with Yoda tier Mustafar Vader) and Dooku would stomp her.
Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Don't Worry About It
Isn't Vong Krayt above Dooku and Kenobi?
How is Mustafar Vader Yoda tier? Yoda straight up tells Kenobi he's no match for Sidious, and should take on Vader instead. Implying Kenobi and Vader are more evenly matched.
What is banite scaling? Haven't been around in a while.
Where is this from? Starkiller is not sub Jinn lol
Last edited by kotorfan on Nov 8th, 2020 at 12:19 AM
Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Don't Worry About It
Man banite scaling sucks, who can Bane actually beat?
I don't know.. I mean usually Lucas makes sense, but this seems like more of a film direction thing as opposed to a power scaling thing. He's just trying to show a cool fight scene (Duel of the Fates) for audiences to drool over then justify it by saying Vader was crippled and Kenobi was old. Let's disregard Lucas' quote for this one.
I thought SK's tutaminis and Force Lightning was pretty impressive. Those weren't environmental, they were in actual combat? TFU1 SK went toe to toe with Palps' lightning, isn't TFU2 SK more powerful than the original?
All that can be said for sure is that he's behind Tenebrous, Plagueis, and Sidious. Probably a great deal behind them. Where that puts him relative to the rest of the verse is up to you.
It's fairly consistent with what we see in Resurrection. There's no guarantee that the Vader of A New Hope is the same as the Vader of The Force Unleashed, though.
"Going strong" is a bit overboard. Literally everyone left. The only people here are like 1-5 members whereas it used to be like 20+ people posting every single day, at one point like 3 years ago I witnessed 10 active threads at once.
Which I will never be active on because the majority of SW Debaters are literally sociopaths and sadists. (Assuming they're from KMC/CV/SWforums.org and not from youtube or something.)
That forum is good but many guys there are very very very biased against certain characters. You can hardly have a decent debate because they often claim weird stuff, like they have vader super weak
Nov 7th, 2020 02:34 AM
Thanks Scribble!
