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Fingolfin vs Garrosh Hellscream

Fingolfin stands before the gates of Angband challenging Morgoth to a dual. The gates open wide, but instead of Morogth, Grom comes forth. And there, before the hosts of the Noldor and Morgoth, the two battle.

Who takes it?

Edit: Forgot to change the title. It's Grom vs Fingolfin not Garrosh....

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How strong and durable is Grom again?

Because Fingolfin was capable of fighting and taking hits from a walking hill that could smash craters so deep lava sprayed from them.


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Don't know Fingolfin but Grom was able to kill Mannaroth who's a pit lord

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http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Fingolfin

Keeping things simple, he did reasonably well against a dude that could one-shot Mannoroth.


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Fingolfin embarrassed Morgoth. Mannoroth would eviscerate Fingolfin as would Grom.


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Fingolfin would crush Mannoroth and Grom at the same time, lol.


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Fingolfin would crush Mannoroth and Grom at the same time, lol.


If by that you mean Fingolfin would go down in 3 seconds flat, then yeah.


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You have no evidence to support that claim.


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Grom killed Cenarius.


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Fingolfin would have crushed Cenarius. Easily.

He fought Morgoth, who is mightier than any mere demigod.


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Grom killed Cenarius when he was hopped up on Mannaroths blood

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Fingolfin would crush Mannoroth and Grom at the same time, lol.


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Fingolfin would have crushed Cenarius. Easily.

He fought Morgoth, who is mightier than any mere demigod.


You'll need to support that claim.

And if this happens in the forest this Fingoldfish dude is screwed. I remember Cenarius summoning treants over all the place like a crazy mofo and then healing all his allies like they had Wolverine's healing factor. The range on his abilities was insane too, he didn't even need to be there.

Also, you need chaos damage to hurt Cenarius' divine armor, Fingoldfish can't even land a blow.

Also, Cenarius could get wisps to detonate like Malfurion did to kill Archimonde.

Look at this guy's stats, easily one of the strongest in WC.

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Morgoth's physical blows pierced the crust of the planet down to the mantle.

Fingolfin withstood those blows, and parried them.

He crushes Cenarius, Mannoroth, and Grom together, like insects. We're talking a character with physical might sufficient to easily destroy countries.


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Lol

Fingolfin would crush Cenarius in combat.

His weaker niece Galadrial was capable of levelling castles by herself. He wields an enchanted sword. When he got angry, Morgoth's entire army, numbering in the hundreds of thousands, ran from him in fear. He parried strikes from Morgoth, who could create craters deep enough that lava spewed out, and was capable of harming him with his strikes. It took several blows from Morgoth to even put Fingolfin down, and even then, Fingolfin still withstood what was described as the weight of a hill on his chest long enough to cut off Morgoth's foot.

Fingolfin would murder Cenarius, and would beat Grom even easier.

Besides, Grom had an army of Orcs at his back when he took Cenarius on.


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His weaker niece Galadrial was capable of levelling castles by herself.


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That guy would literally step on all of them.


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This whole "hitting the ground so hard lava spews out" is just a trope. I think a character strong enough to do that would have to pierce at least, what, thousands of kilometers of Earth's crust? Morgoth hitting the ground that hard would have caused a veritable extinction event.

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Fingolfin would crush Cenarius in combat.

His weaker niece Galadrial was capable of levelling castles by herself. He wields an enchanted sword. When he got angry, Morgoth's entire army, numbering in the hundreds of thousands, ran from him in fear. He parried strikes from Morgoth, who could create craters deep enough that lava spewed out, and was capable of harming him with his strikes. It took several blows from Morgoth to even put Fingolfin down, and even then, Fingolfin still withstood what was described as the weight of a hill on his chest long enough to cut off Morgoth's foot.

Fingolfin would murder Cenarius, and would beat Grom even easier.

Besides, Grom had an army of Orcs at his back when he took Cenarius on.


Maybe. Cenarius is a bit of a pussy.

So? Thrall could level whole keeps as well and an all-in, charged attack from him merely made a tiny scratch on Mannoroth's wing. Mannoroth would steamroll Galadriel. Oh, and did she need her Ring to level castles?

Enchanted sword? Oh, big ****ing deal.

Of course they ran. Evil in Tolkien's work is usually depicted as petty and craven(especially when faced with awesome righteousness). They could have zerged Finglofin, but chose to piss off instead.

All Grom needs is to land a good hit on Fingolfin and it's GG. Not saying that he would necessarily get that hit in, of course, but if he does, elf boy is toast.


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I think a character strong enough to do that would have to pierce at least, what, thousands of kilometers of Earth's crust?

30-50.


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30-50.


Oh, but where exactly does lava show up? Because I think that the upper layers of Earth's Mantle are solid?


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