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Zoro (One Piece) v.s. Wolverine (616) Sword fight

Zoro and Logan fight with swords, no claws for Wolverine. It takes place on a ship at sea with nothing nearby for miles. Because that's neat.

Round 1. No powers, strength equalized.
Round 2. All stats equalized.
Round 3. Both have their full capabilities.


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1. Zoro in my opinion. A lot of his moves and abilities aren't powers if I'm correct. The only power that he technically has is Haki, his strength, speed, skill and all of that is from natural training. Wolverine loses his HF, which he would need to keep up in the fight and learn Zoro's movements, patterns and everything. If Zoro goes for the win at the start then I see him taking the majority.

2. This one is based on who's more skilled and both of them are highly skilled in their own right, you actually see all of the hard work and dedication both of them put into their art, especially Zoro. It's an even split for me until someone else with more knowledge comes in and gives evidence on why. If I had to choose someone for the majority then probably Zoro.

3. Wolverine wins the vast majority. His HF will keep him in the fight long enough to predict Zoro's movements and counter accordingly. The fight may take a while, or it may be over soon but Wolverine will simply outlast him if he couldn't just overpower and beat him straight up.


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I think zoro takes the first two on the grounds that he has more than one blade.
I don't think zoro could possibly cut him enough times if he has his healing factor though.

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Zoro sweeps.

Zoro is not just stronger than Wolverine, Wolvie is finally fighting someone who is also faster than he is as well as stronger.

In the third fight, Zoro doesn't even need his swords. He holds Wolverine down and puts his balls on Logan's forehead. Logan has no way of countering this, any attack that isn't backed by Adamantium claws isn't going to so much as cause an indentation in his skin. And Zoro is not getting hit by the claws.

I seriously lol'd at the implication that Wolverine is physically stronger than Zoro.


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Zoro was literally shoving buildings aside in Alabasta. And he's extremely weak in comparison to how he is now.

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Round 1 and 3 are won by Zoro, easily.

I can't actually picture how the battle would go with equalized stats, but as far as I know Zoro should be able to disarm Logan with his cartoonish ranged attacks and take it from there. Logan should have the skill edge and the use of pressure points even when disarmed could be a threat.


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Logan can be Ko'd, and his HF can be overtaxed. And Zoro has enough in his arsenal to take his healing to it's limit's in no time at all.

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1. Zoro curbs him. And why not, blitzes him too.
2. Outskills/ranges Logan.
3. Eh, goes to the 'how greats the regen, which Class can take him out' thing. Besides this Zoro is incredibly above Logan that walking through him would be a breeze.


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Zoro sweeps.

Zoro is not just stronger than Wolverine, Wolvie is finally fighting someone who is also faster than he is as well as stronger.

In the third fight, Zoro doesn't even need his swords. He holds Wolverine down and puts his balls on Logan's forehead. Logan has no way of countering this, any attack that isn't backed by Adamantium claws isn't going to so much as cause an indentation in his skin. And Zoro is not getting hit by the claws.

I seriously lol'd at the implication that Wolverine is physically stronger than Zoro.


Actually there's not much I have to say about this. I tend to trust your opinion in a lot of vs debates because you're one of the only people on here that keeps it straight. I'll admit that I haven't followed OP from the start, watched it for Crocodile and I've been following it since Fishman Island/Hordy arc so I know I missed a lot. As I said, this fight is completely one-sided, Zoro is naturally faster and stronger and all he loses to my knowledge is Haki whereas Wolverine just loses everything that gives him a chance to survive the first hit.

Completely agree on the first fight that there's nothing that Wolverine could do to win or take more than a hit from Zoro without a HF.

On scenario two I thought it would be more even since it's based on skill and felt that it could go either way from my knowledge, neither are the greatest swordsman in their worlds, although Zoro isn't far from that title, a lot closer than Wolverine is to the top.

On scenario 3 I felt that Wolverine would win due to his durability, HF and experience would let him survive until he could find an opening and gut although as I'm reading this I now realize that he doesn't have his claws in scenario three so I think it would be a lot harder for him to get that killer blow on so I'm officially changing my opinion in that scenario.


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What if we gave him his claws in scenario 3?


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He cuts zoro's swords apart.

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What if we gave him his claws in scenario 3?


Meh, it increases his chance to get that lucky shot I was thinking of, although Zoro is still faster and an extremely gifted swordsman who's strong enough to have their slashes generate air. I think he would deem Wolverine worthy enough to actually feel the blades of his swords which technically makes matters worse. Talking to my resident OP fan who got me watching it now about it and he agrees that Zoro wins. He's a fan of both as well. The only person that I think can make an argument for Wolverine is Srank from CBVS, and he'll probably have to use his Berserker's Rage.


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I haven't seen any thing after the timeskip. Does zoro get stronger sword? Or are they just steel?

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I haven't seen any thing after the timeskip. Does zoro get stronger sword? Or are they just steel?


Zoro's strength never came from his swords. That's all natural. One sword belongs to the girl from his origins. Think her name was Kurina.


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Same swords as pre-time skip.


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So if logan gets his claws, what's stopping him from getting rid of roronoa's swords? (That's not how you spell it, is it?)

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I haven't seen any thing after the timeskip. Does zoro get stronger sword? Or are they just steel?


Does it really matter when he can create a tornado of blades as a casual attack?

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This is the result of current Zoro's strength and skill.


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Actually there's not much I have to say about this. I tend to trust your opinion in a lot of vs debates because you're one of the only people on here that keeps it straight. I'll admit that I haven't followed OP from the start, watched it for Crocodile and I've been following it since Fishman Island/Hordy arc so I know I missed a lot. As I said, this fight is completely one-sided, Zoro is naturally faster and stronger and all he loses to my knowledge is Haki whereas Wolverine just loses everything that gives him a chance to survive the first hit.

Completely agree on the first fight that there's nothing that Wolverine could do to win or take more than a hit from Zoro without a HF.

On scenario two I thought it would be more even since it's based on skill and felt that it could go either way from my knowledge, neither are the greatest swordsman in their worlds, although Zoro isn't far from that title, a lot closer than Wolverine is to the top.

On scenario 3 I felt that Wolverine would win due to his durability, HF and experience would let him survive until he could find an opening and gut although as I'm reading this I now realize that he doesn't have his claws in scenario three so I think it would be a lot harder for him to get that killer blow on so I'm officially changing my opinion in that scenario.
You filthy harlot, you were supposed to argue with me and insult me like a dirty *****!

The problem is that Zoro is faster and actually has the luxury of a reach greater than the length of his blades, as well as the strength to knock him about like a ragdoll.

So tell me Wei, why is it that Wolverine, when punched by Hulk, manages to not be sent to the other side of the planet?


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Also pre-time skip, his three swords are part of a collection of the most powerful swords in the world.

Logan probably wouldn't be able to cut through them. Especially considering all the damage the swords have tanked that would have snapped a normal sword like a toothpick.

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Those claws have cut the likes of Thanos and Thor.

Calm down.


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