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True Blood universe vs. Twilight Princess universe

No mega spells from either side or oneshot weapons. Invasion type thread which I am known for. Bon Temps is 10 miles away from Hyrule. Every character from the show who can be physically affected. No spirits only but mediums and characters who can be harmed for both sides. No vague characters like Ifrit, etc. for both sides.


Notable True Blood characters

1. Russell Edgington
2. Bill(ith)
3. Marnie Stonebrook as Antonia's medium
4. Maryann Forrester
5. Godric
6. Faerie Elder
7. Claudine
8. Niall Brigant
9. Warlow
10. Authority


Notable Twilight Characters

1. Ganondorf
2. Link
3. Midna
4. Zelda
5. King Bulbin
6. Zant
7. Bo
8. Dangoro
9. Sages
10. Twilight Realm


Since True Blood is ongoing we can argue as it changes this season. We don't know much of anything about Warlow yet as an example.


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Thinking back, that Ifrit plot really came out of nowhere. Cool, but random no expression For the thread, two things:

Are your notable members list only that, and not the only participants in this thread?


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Thinking back, that Ifrit plot really came out of nowhere. Cool, but random no expression For the thread, two things:

Are your notable members list only that, and not the only participants in this thread?
Every character save the ones who can't really be killed or were shown to be harmed physically. I just made a random list. What say you ?


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I say awkward time to make the thread as we've just started season 6 and barely know anything about Warlow and Bill, the sides two strongest contenders. Three if we include Niall.


Btw, is this all known characters or every character on the planet? Never really clarified this in other mass war threads.


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I say awkward time to make the thread as we've just started season 6 and barely know anything about Warlow and Bill, the sides two strongest contenders. Three if we include Niall.


Btw, is this all known characters or every character on the planet? Never really clarified this in other mass war threads.
Just the ones we see. Not the entire planet. Keep Warlow out until he actually appears on the show. Niall and Billith so ar can be argued against with what we know.


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All we know of Niall that he's likely strongest Faerie (or just royal?) though the Fae haven't given us too much to work with. With Bill we're getting some strength but nothing mentioned about any weaknesses yet. But alrighty, with the way things are going we should be getting weekly feats.


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All we know of Niall that he's likely strongest Faerie (or just royal?) though the Fae haven't given us too much to work with. With Bill we're getting some strength but nothing mentioned about any weaknesses yet. But alrighty, with the way things are going we should be getting weekly feats.
Bill is weak against the sun still. Niall seems very quick and very capable as a faerie. The Elder Faerie and Niall seem quite formidable.

Who do you think wins this thread now ?


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This seems like a fun idea Quan :3

Are we using only current characters of true blood? No already dead characters like Godric? Also if it's a 'current' listing what if someone dies in the new season? Such as if Eric dies should we remove him from the thread?


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This seems like a fun idea Quan :3

Are we using only current characters of true blood? No already dead characters like Godric? Also if it's a 'current' listing what if someone dies in the new season? Such as if Eric dies should we remove him from the thread?
No, all characters who have existed from the show or this game.

If we did current Dorf wouldn't be around nor would Zant, etc.


That is no fun.


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Bill is weak against the sun still. Niall seems very quick and very capable as a faerie. The Elder Faerie and Niall seem quite formidable.

Who do you think wins this thread now ?
Personally hoping that Niall is a league above the Elder, if he's to be much of a threat. Well kinda, the thing is I've had my doubts about that ever since Nora mentions that the "humans lead her into the sun" part was a mistranslation. Never know. That, fire and decapitation being the main three (wood stakes being off the table) we need to see.


Even if its hypothetically I'd like to know more about Bill first. If 1k aged Vamps are touching on supersonic reactions then 2k, 3k or at least 6k for Warlow should definitely have that movement speed, even a step above. By that Bill should definitely be faster. Its just right now all of this comes down to a 'sure, they should' because the best speed we have to go on is Eric's fluctuating reactions. The same with strength. We know it increases with age, its just all we're seeing is that one is somewhat above the other, and not anything showing the actual strength.
Its an issue for this thread as high tiers around Link's speed are supersonic (no not in your opinion, bare with me here for the sake of my point), so the 7 kiloVamps would be in this range to some level. Guys like Warlow and Bill could theoretically be faster than LoZ top tiers to a good degree, but we need to see this. Strength is currently shown to have mid-tier LoZ strength (like Shadow Beasts), even though again Warlow and Bill.. hell even Russell should be showing things a great amount higher than what we've seen.


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Personally hoping that Niall is a league above the Elder, if he's to be much of a threat. Well kinda, the thing is I've had my doubts about that ever since Nora mentions that the "humans lead her into the sun" part was a mistranslation. Never know. That, fire and decapitation being the main three (wood stakes being off the table) we need to see.


Even if its hypothetically I'd like to know more about Bill first. If 1k aged Vamps are touching on supersonic reactions then 2k, 3k or at least 6k for Warlow should definitely have that movement speed, even a step above. By that Bill should definitely be faster. Its just right now all of this comes down to a 'sure, they should' because the best speed we have to go on is Eric's fluctuating reactions. The same with strength. We know it increases with age, its just all we're seeing is that one is somewhat above the other, and not anything showing the actual strength.
Its an issue for this thread as high tiers around Link's speed are supersonic (no not in your opinion, bare with me here for the sake of my point), so the 7 kiloVamps would be in this range to some level. Guys like Warlow and Bill could theoretically be faster than LoZ top tiers to a good degree, but we need to see this. Strength is currently shown to have mid-tier LoZ strength (like Shadow Beasts), even though again Warlow and Bill.. hell even Russell should be showing things a great amount higher than what we've seen.


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The Elder was a threat obviously since she was greater than Claudine who effectively bfr'd Warlow. Russell just capitalized and was too quick and clever here. She hit Jason due to Russell and he used his speed to run past her and bite her. The Elder also easily showed reflexes to tag Newlin's blitz tactic.

Russell showed he was stronger than any other Tb vamp in direct comparison. You are a feat monger. Direct comparisons are best indicators of strength amongst characters.

We have already seen Tb vamps considerably faster than any Loz characters. We don't need to see it in every scene as you'd lose the audience.


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Russell showed he was stronger than any other Tb vamp in direct comparison. You are a feat monger. Direct comparisons are best indicators of strength amongst characters.

So you accept that Link overpowers multiple class 100+ enemies and characters through out TP, and thus he's class 100+, yes?


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So you accept that Link overpowers multiple class 100+ enemies and characters through out TP, and thus he's class 100+, yes?
Link isn't stronger than any of them and needs gear in order to do so. Russell was stronger than them. Flat out stated. Link is strong enough with gear to contend.

Huge diff.


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The Elder was a threat obviously since she was greater than Claudine who effectively bfr'd Warlow. Russell just capitalized and was too quick and clever here. She hit Jason due to Russell and he used his speed to run past her and bite her. The Elder also easily showed reflexes to tag Newlin's blitz tactic.

Russell showed he was stronger than any other Tb vamp in direct comparison. You are a feat monger. Direct comparisons are best indicators of strength amongst characters.

We have already seen Tb vamps considerably faster than any Loz characters. We don't need to see it in every scene as you'd lose the audience.


Oh no no I mean as in a vs thread threat, I'm waiting for him to pull off impressive things.


And what does that mean? Example: Steve lifts up 1 ton, and you are stronger than Steve. Can you lift 1.5 tons? 2 tons? 5 tons? We don't know, all we know is that you're stronger than 1 ton Steve. Older Vamps are stronger and faster, but without knowing by how much until they show us.. until then all we're left with is the Steve example.


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Link isn't stronger than any of them and needs gear in order to do so. Russell was stronger than them. Flat out stated. Link is strong enough with gear to contend.

Huge diff.
Do the boots make him stronger? smile

Also note he didn't wear them when matching Ganondorf. You know, the strongest opponent in the game.


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Oh no no I mean as in a vs thread threat, I'm waiting for him to pull off impressive things.


And what does that mean? Example: Steve lifts up 1 ton, and you are stronger than Steve. Can you lift 1.5 tons? 2 tons? 5 tons? We don't know, all we know is that you're stronger than 1 ton Steve. Older Vamps are stronger and faster, but without knowing by how much until they show us.. until then all we're left with is the Steve example.
Elder Faerie is still impressive in versus threads.

Russell is so much stronger you can combine their strength and it still was not enough in a room of Eric Northman, Salome, Nora, Bill, etc.

You are hung on up on the math.

Nope.


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Elder Faerie is still impressive in versus threads.
Russell is so much stronger you can combine their strength and it still was not enough in a room of Eric Northman, Salome, Nora, Bill, etc.
You are hung on up on the math.
Nope.

Not really. They're physically human with mind reading and light blasts, blasts which can fling humans around but are not fatal (Jason too a direct hit from her intended to kill Russ and was fine not long after).

Yeah okay, so Russell is stronger than other vamps.. just like you're stronger than Steve. I literally just said that.

Without a lil math all we're left with is you stating that scenes where humans tracked Eric's speed is somehow supersonic :T




Edit: Main point; All we have to go on is the best we've seen. And so far we have nothing for top tiers.


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Not really. They're physically human with mind reading and light blasts, blasts which can fling humans around but are not fatal (Jason too a direct hit from her intended to kill Russ and was fine not long after).

Yeah okay, so Russell is stronger than other vamps.. just like you're stronger than Steve. I literally just said that.

Without a lil math all we're left with is you stating that scenes where humans tracked Eric's speed is somehow supersonic :T




Edit: Main point; All we have to go on is the best we've seen. And so far we have nothing for top tiers.
It was intended to send the vampire to another realm not a human. She showed herself to have great reflexes when she tagged Newlin.


Russell was vastly stronger than the other vamps even combining their strength so there goes your one more pound theory.

Fast speed.


Who wins ?


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Link isn't stronger than any of them

Right, he only overpowers each of them.


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