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Rorschach (Watchmen film) vs Thane Krios (Mass Effect Series)

H2H only. Fight takes place in Mustafar base where Obi-Wan and Anakin fought. Each only know of the others presence, both are in their top physical shape. Who wins?

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Not even self-exploding can stop Rorshach.. trust me.


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The only argument I could really make right now is that Thane knows how to kill Krogans with his bare hands, so humans shouldn't be much of a problem. However, I am aware that this isn't just any human. I never watched all of Watchmen, so I'm a little short on info for Rorschach. Care to help me with that?

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Thane is above Rorshach in all levels.


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Yeah but who has the superior inner-monologue?


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I don't remember Thane having an inner-monologue so I guess Ror by default?


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Thane is above Rorshach in all levels.
Based on what exactly?


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Being a highly trained assassin, holding his own and even holding the advantage momentarily against Kai while severely sick and below his average. Every showing from the games that I've seen aren't even him at his peak due to being sick with that disease unless it didn't have any effects on his body during the second game. He's trained and skilled at killing beings that are vastly above peak human like Krogans and Turians.


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Turians are so above peak human that Anderson knocked one out with a headbutt in fact.

Krogans? I have no doubt that with the right equipment and biotic powers, those things that Thane has no access to in this thread, that Rorschach could kill a Krogan.

With only his physical abilities, what has he done?


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He wrote up how he assassinates Krogan's with his bare hands in the Shadow Broker DLC Dossiers. That method involves acrobatics, and pressure points as well as massive strength to be able to snap a Krogan's neck. And with his physical abilities he fought and did good against Kai Leng who was clearly superhuman and cybernetically enhanced. Even though he was literally dying at the time.

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Thane is above Rorshach in all levels.

This I agree with. thumb up


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Well the Shadow Broker files on Thane shows that his preferred method to killing Krogans, Asari and Turians and humans are all strictly h2h. On screen he hasn't done much feat-wise unless you count verbal testimony but this is from the wiki page of the Shadow Broker Dossier on Thane.

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Preferred Assassination Methods

Human: Rear approach, check shoulder to prevent turning, hands to chin and base of skull, neck-snap. Alternate: Check and grab shoulder, arm around throat, grip jaw, single-arm neck-snap.

Asari: Front approach, throat-punch to collapse airway, arm control lock to neutralize biotics, advanced hip throw, grip chin and scalp, neck-snap. Alternate: Warp field on biotic barrier, step past, kick to back of leg to collapse knee, step in with knee to spine, grip chin and scalp, neck-snap.

Turian: Side approach, low kick to knee, grab arm and pull into broken-leg lock as turian leg stiffens in pain response, finger-stab under jaw (if unarmored) or eye, grab head fringe, neck-snap. Alternate: Front approach, paired punches to vulnerable plates just below eyes, drop-elbow to collarbone, front-leg sweep while vaulting over target, spinning neck snap.

Krogan: Top approach, double-strike to eye ridge, slide down between blinded target's rising arms, precision nerve strike to throat, secondary nerve strike to counter blood rage, quad-kick to bend target, grip each side of skull, running leaping spinning neck-snap. Alternate: Bomb.


What has film Rorshach done that puts him above Thane?


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Well the Shadow Broker files on Thane shows that his preferred method to killing Krogans, Asari and Turians and humans are all strictly h2h. On screen he hasn't done much feat-wise unless you count verbal testimony but this is from the wiki page of the Shadow Broker Dossier on Thane.



What has film Rorshach done that puts him above Thane?

Got caught by cops after a long history of beating mostly unskilled thugs half/to death then getting blown up by a blue naked god man. Oh and he can MacGruber together weapons from crap found under the sink and such.


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That scene against the cops though was awesome. I liked it.


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That scene against the cops though was awesome. I liked it.


that it was. thumb up


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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Being a highly trained assassin, holding his own and even holding the advantage momentarily against Kai while severely sick and below his average. Every showing from the games that I've seen aren't even him at his peak due to being sick with that disease unless it didn't have any effects on his body during the second game. He's trained and skilled at killing beings that are vastly above peak human like Krogans and Turians.


I don't have the freshest memory on it, but from what I can tell, Kepral's Syndrome is a respiratory illness. As far as negative impact on performance goes, I'd say it brought him way down, which only reinforces any of his feats of CQC or otherwise.

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I don't want this to be spite against rorschach so i'll allow comic feats also in defense of him, Unless its ridiculous comic stuff like destroying galaxies or shattering dimensions or whatevs.


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I don't want this to be spite against rorschach so i'll allow comic feats also in defense of him


Probably a good idea. I think only partially examining characters is bullshit, so I usually assimilate consistent adaptations.



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Unless its ridiculous comic stuff like destroying galaxies or shattering dimensions or whatevs.


Which would likely be classified as character inconsistency or PIS.

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Well, I don't think the Watchmen comic universe is overly powerful either.

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What has film Rorshach done that puts him above Thane?


Punch through reinforced glass as though it were styrofoam, avoid assault rifle fire from multiple Swat team officers firing at him, be generally and obviously superhuman, something Thane is not to my recollection.


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