He's from Samurai X or Rurouni Kenshin, every episode of the show is on Youtube in English dub. Physically his attacks can create shockwaves that can destroy the surrounding area. He can punch someone so hard that they fly 30 feet back and through a stone wall.
One character name Sanosuke was able to casually break down giant trees with punches. He couldn't even hurt Shishio even though he punched him straight in the face.
I think Cap could hurt him with the Shield though. Shishio doesn't have many speed feats except for fighting other characters who do have speed feats.
Cap is faster, being a legit bullet timer who is actually stated to see bullets in slow motion.
Kenshin from what I remember had to aim-dodge bullets, and Shisio would have to be power-scaled from that.
Strength is close enough to call it equal, though Cap has punched Iron Man so hard that he went flying for a few meters and when he landed he made a noticeable crater.
Cap is easily the better fighter. Not even close. He'll get in close, disarm Shishio and immobilize him with pressure points.
Cap is more durable, and has a bit of a healing factor to him as well.
Sanosuke is a bullet timer, he was able to deflect gunfire from a chain gun using water. Kenshin is faster than Sano is. I've never seen Shshio bullet time but he's been able to match characters who can bullet time.
Kenshin was also able to outreact Sojiro, Sojiro was so fast he was able to run on a ceiling.
Strength is not equal. Cap doing any damage to Iron Man without his shield is blatant PIS. Meanwhile Shishio was able to catch Sano's fist, the same fist that could casually destroy giant trees.
Cap is not more durable either. Shishio wasn't even phased by a guy who can smash giant trees with his fist. Sanosuke's punches would injure if not flat out kill Cap.
Cap may be faster (doubt it though) but Shishio is significantly stronger and more durable than Cap is. His skill is also incredible. Cap may be a better hand to hand fighter but Shishio is a sword fighter so Cap won't have much of a skill advantage.
-I vaguely remember something like that, but I can't comment on the specifics. It's going to be archaic technology however, so no faster than musket fire of the time, so even if we assume it was a straight up feat with no other context, it still falls far below Cap who's used to dealing with entire platoons of men armed with automatic assault rifles and he gets away without a scratch. His shield is not even close to big enough to cover all fronts of him either, he's simply that fast. So Cap's edge in speed is massive. This is more than enough to get the win.
-Strength is equal just to not get into too much of a fuss trying to fully analyze the specifics. Cap has uprooted granite statues that were fixed to the ground, that would weigh anywhere from 7 to 10 tons. Not just lifted, straight up ripped it off the ground, while he was tied to it no less. I didn't say Cap hurt Iron Man, simply that he knocked him far enough and hard enough for Iron Man's landing to make a big crater. Cap has closed Nuclear Silo doors with his barehands. Cap also hurts the likes of Spiderman, Carnage and even Rhino. All more durable than Shishio. The dude's fists are made of something special.
-Cap is far more durable than that. That's not even too impressive. Cap has no sold truck sized explosions while in the center of them. Cap has jumped from aircraft so high up that when he lands, his feet made craters in solid rock. No pain. Cap has been blasted through several large buildings, with the final one collapsing on him, and he came out fine. Cap has jettisoned himself from falling aircraft that IIRC, was re-entering the atmosphere, from several miles up, and his parachute was caught on fire so crash landed into the side of building and was fine.
-Shishio's skill is nothing impressive compared to what Cap has dealt with. He's actually quite pedestrian in that regard compared to Marvel streets. Wolverine is far, far more skilled than Shishio, as a swordsman and as a hand to hand fighter, Cap is his equal.
-Stamina, easily Cap. The dude has had a massive hole in his chest/torso and was still operating. Shishio is going to have to decaptitate Steve to win, and he's not going to be able to do it.
Cap equal or better in every stat, sometimes with a significant advantage. And his skill is undeniably superior.
This is close to spite actually, especially since Cap has his shield. Cap has taken on far worse than a mildly superhuman swordsman.
Even the earliest forms of the gatling gun from the 1800's has a muzzle velocity of 2000 feet per second or twice as fast as a standard modern day hand gun.
And lets look at some of other characters. Kenshin was so fast that he was able to destroy an entire bridge with a single strike. Sojiro was so fast that he was able to defy gravity and run upside down on a ceiling. Aoshi was fast enough to where he can leave multiple after images of himself.
All of these characters are faster than Cap is, and only one of them was able to beat Shishio.
Strength isn't equal. Not even close. When Cap can punch someone so hard that they fly back 40 feet into a stone wall then he might be on Shishio's level. When Cap can hit so hard that he causes the entire area damage through the shock waves of his attacks, then he might be on that level. Cap is maybe a 1-2 tonnor tops, Shishio's feats put him in the 10 ton range. None of those feats you listed are even remotely comparable.
Shishio's durability is far beyond Cap's level. Characters who can smash stone and trees can't even phase him. On the other side Cap has been phased, injured and harmed by characters like Bucky, Crossbones, Taskmaster, Red Skull, Daredevil, John Steele
All of these characters are physically weaker than Sanosuke is. None of these characters can shatter giant trees or turn stone to dust with their fist. A single punch from Sanosuke would put Cap into a coma. If he doesn't die he'll easily be KO'd.
Wolverine is far more skilled than Shishio, Wolverine is also far more skilled than Cap. Cap has never been Wolverine's equal in hand to hand or in terms of weaponry. No where in Marvel's canon is this ever shown.
Stamina, Shishio was able to withstand Kenshin's ultimate attack, an attack so powerful that the force creates a vacuum that literally sucks everything in.
So lets take a look
Strength: Shishio can punch people 40 feet through stone walls, Cap can't.
Durability: Shishio is unphased by characters who can destroy trees and turn stone to dust. The attacks from Sanosuke and Kenshin that Shishio shrugs off would complete cripple Cap.
Cap is phased and even injured by characters like Crossbones, Taskmaster and Daredevil.
Skill: Shishio's skill is nothing impressive, neither is Cap's, and Cap has never been Wolverine's equal.
Not to mention Shishio physically outclasses Wolverine
Cap has taken on far worse? Cap has also lost to far less, that's a weak argument.
I agree, this may have been spite. Considering Cap is outclassed in most area's, the only thing that may be debateable is speed even though Shishio wrecks characters faster than Cap is.
Last edited by TrevorPhillipss on Nov 27th, 2013 at 05:14 AM
The problem with Shishio, is most of the characters he fought were either heavily injured or otherwise on their last legs.. Kenshin himself was pretty badly messed up from fighting Aoshi and especially Soujiro (Who probably had Kenshin dead to rights, if not for his mental instability letting Kenshin read his ki)
Still, like you said, Sanosuke is a bullet timer, and ridiculously strong in his own right.. And he's nothing to Shishio.
I'm betting on the samuri mummy.
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Sure but lets think about this for a second. Aoshi at 100% lost to Kenshin, not the Batosauii but Pacifist Kenshin. Saito and Shishio were both stated to be on the same level as blood lusted Kenshin.
Aoshi was also using one Kodachi in their first match, while he learned an upgraded ougi with two Kodochi.
Still, Kenshin could have ended it quick, but he wasn't fighting seriously until late into the match, which gave Aoshi some free hits.
The majority of damage (Not to mention stamina loss) came at the hands of Soujiro.
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