If genjutsu is effective, then Madara for sure. If not, then it's going to depend on the version of Juggernaut (pretty sure Madara can't do anything to classic Juggernaut if genjutsu doesn't work here)
Madara's not going to die to a thunderclap. He's absurdly tough to begin with (the Biju slapped him around with their tail), and he has susano'o defense anyway.
He can easily last long enough to mind-zowie Juggernaut.
Because Juggernaut's helmet protects him from Xavier's telepathy. No reason to believe that the helmet will protect him from Genjutsu which works differently.
I've never seen Marko thunderclap that hard, but I definitively see Pak's Hulk one-shotting Madara with a thunderclap.
As per this situation, I don't think you can manipulate the chakra of the Juggernaut, as it's part of its body which is invulnerable. Obviously if ninjutsu does work Juggs goes down like a chump.
Cain has very rarely thunderclapped. When he has it was a long time ago, like probably before we were even born against the X-Men, probably NC or Storm and he KO'd them. They don't have the greatest durability though. As a physical peer to Hulk he should be able to do tons of damage with one.
It's just a shockwave. Considering Madara *without* susano'o took Shukaku and Gaara's combined attack.
Yes, comic characters get a lot stronger, but even Itachi was capable of blocking an attack that obliterated a hill, and the Biju use megaton-level attacks are weaker than Madara's susano'o.
Madara can't beat him physically, but we are not talking 'any random attack will do,' territory any more. He is not a glass cannon. We are talking a very, very superhuman tough character here. With susano'o up, he can tank nuke level attacks, and even without he's not going to get one-shotted by a mere thunderclap.
Because Cain would just ask Cytorrak to get him back at the battlefield.And Madara's genjutsu would probably work if Cain's helmet was taken off.Which isn't an easy task.And I'm guessing neither of them no what the other can do.So Juggernaut would probably win.
Personally I don't see Marko using a thunderclap, for starters he's an utter idiot. I don't think Juggs is Hulk level. Hulk's thunderclaps... dépends of the version. By all means, he should resist a thunderclap from pretty much any other character that comes to mind.
Do you think Madara has any kind of seal that can deal with Marko?
You can't really compare genjutsu with telepathy. But the thread creator needs to specify the versions of the characters. I'm sure Madara would one-panel the last Juggernaut that I saw (the one in Thunderbolts)
If it's classic Juggernaut, then Madara's going to need some genjutsu which only works on Naruto characters so the OP still needs to specify if that would be allowed to work here.
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