Celestialsapien would win against a Q. Q have limits, Alien X's have none aside from needing a majority vote to take action(which should be an obvious nod to their power). Even with their inability to manipulate mana, they could simply rearrange the universe thereby altering mana itself, which would then allow them to manipulate it.
Celestialsapien's have remade the universe multiple times on a whim, and survived the destruction of one. Doubtful Q's are on that level as Q pointed out several times they had limits and humanity could one day equal them.
Don't be too sure. Alien X defeated the Gladiator by trapping him at the center of a giant, galaxy sized accretion disk(presumably he was sucked and crushed into a singularity). It didn't visibly damage him, but weakened him enough for Ben to carry him back to the court like a trophy.
I am guessing if Q could pull off some dramatic trick like that, he could conceivably win. Then again the Gladiator seemed to be very proficient at h2h combat even on a cosmic scale, so this is a tough fight.
That doesn't negate the way he defeated the Gladiator.
Not really. Celestialsapiens so far are the only beings which can defeat other celestialsapiens in the Ben10verse. Similarly the Q can only be defeated by Q-made weapons. They are the only omnipotents of their respective verses, so its obvious nothing besides something stemming from their own species would be able to overwhelm them.
I am pretty sure creating that giant singularity is within Q's abilities, but if you think this is one-sided in the GG's favor then the onus is on you to prove it.
Edit: Considering the fact that Alien X's personalities have constant trouble trying to agree on anything instead of bickering all the time, and how the Gladiator didn't seem to suffer from such a handicap in comparison, I'd say the Gladiator was the more experienced/powerful of the 2. He was even winning before Ben managed to get the drop on him. Ben's plot armor enabled Alien X to win, otherwise he was toast against the Gladiator.
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The Celestialsapiens have done the same thing. Except in reverse. Probably have done the same as they have remade the universe several times to suit their whims.
That doesn't give him sureshot victory. A relatively inexperienced Celestialsapien casually recreated the entire universe from nothing after a reality-destroying weapon razed it.
And in the most recent episode, it has been revealed that other Celestialsapiens have altered/recreated the universe multiple times.
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