Luke is not catching Sora with TK lol. Luke might be able to react to lasers but Sora can outrace them and shoot a beam of light that is faster than any laser Luke has ever faced.
In the movies anyway. EU Luke might be a completely different story.
Blaster bolts aren't even lasers. They're literally bolts of concentrated energy. For example, a blaster pistol shoots bolts at about 15m/s(33 mph). That's why a lot of less famous Jedi have problems with slugthrowers(Star Wars version of modern guns) since the slugs come out a lot faster than blaster bolts and aren't glowing so you can see them.
EU Luke however has batted aside turbolaser fire from the Millenium Falcon, which are about 180,700m/s(404,214 mph) if not faster as the number was based on Leia's blockade runner and the Falcon is heavily modified. And he was fighting with Jacen so fast that even other Force Users couldn't see them. They just saw flashes of light from when their lightsabers hit each other.
That wasn't fighting jacen, that was fighting the leader of the Vong the supreme leader shinrra something, atleast as far as I recall, but yeah EU Luke is a monster, though I think based on the force awakens comic that movie Luke in time, will become so as well.
Regardless, all Luke needs to do really, is move his hand in Sora's direction and twitch his fingers ever so slightly.
Sora will get caught off guard at some point, and he isn't getting close enough to kill Luke.
Sora has never been FTL, based on what we've seen from well, all he's done, besides the Final Fight scene with Xemnas.
Oh believe me, I think he's fast, but after extensively playing every single Kingdom Hearts game ever made over the years, he isn't outrunning the hand of one of the greatest force users ever. Period.
He isn't fast enough to get to Luke before Luke can grab him with TK.
Sora is faster the ROTJ Luke dude. Sora can basically teleport in some cases.
Also even if he wasn't fast enough to tag Luke, which he is, it is not in Luke's character to just TK his opponents. He goes in sword swinging in every case I can recall. He'll try to duel Sora and he will lose lol.
Show me one instance where Sora can teleport without some special object.
Sora isn't faster then Luke's arm moving in his direction.
We had this same discussion awhile back in the movie versus forum with Darth Vader and Spiderman, some people thought Vader was too slow to catch Spidey with his TK, but eventually everyone conceded and accepted that there was no way Spidey was outrunning Vader's arm.
Let's say Sora IS fast enough to outrun Luke's arm/fingers, what are the chances Sora won't accidentally move into Luke's range and and get tossed into a wall.
We aren't here to talk about their character, I have no idea why you'd even mention that, since the way they act is no concern to a versus thread. It doesn't matter if he doesn't use it much, the fact that he CAN is a big game changer.
Also before you say that Roxas's attacks aren't lightspeed(despite Light being the basis for his moveset), we have a controlled example of a Sora's light reaching the moon in an actual second. A light attack he has used in combat by the by.
And the reason I bring Luke's character up is because how a character fights is almost as important as what they can do because it shows us how this character prefers to do things. Luke actually makes it easier than most. ROTJ gives us a bloodlusted Luke wailing at Vader with his lightsaber until just chopping his hand off. He doesn't have much experience throwing dudes around with the Force but chopping people up he can do no problem.
Every SINGLE example you gave, was him teleporting under special circumstances, and using his opponents weapons against them. NOT Sora himself. Sora can't teleport on his own, and none of the examples you listed can prove that he can.
Sora is not outrunning Luke's hand, he just isn't.
"In a flash" isn't as fast as you might think.
Samurai Jack consistently kills large numbers of people "In a flash", but it doesn't make him faster then Luke Skywalker, Kenshin Himura does it.
Pretty much almost any cartoon/anime swordsman you can think of has done that feat at least once, it doesn't mean anything.
Sora had Riku's help for that, and even then, the lasers weren't moving nearly as fast as real life bullets.
Light based attacks, aren't always FTL, in fact, they rarely are.
The dude in my sig is one example, Light-Based attacks out the ass, he is literally the embodiment of Light in the FF universe, yet not one of his attacks make him FTL.
Sora's physical strength is too much for luke to hold him down. The biggest thing luke has lifted is c3-p0. He technically doesn't even to move is arm, but it won't matter.
Elaborate on how Sora is using his opponents abilities against them because I see no reason to assume it is not the Keyblade. Keyblade wielders can very much teleport. It is Vanitas's bread and butter(he actually is FTL based on his space traveling). Also I notice that you never argued against Sora reacting to the Lingering Will's FTL vehicle or Sephiroth's teleporting.
Sora is not outrunning Luke's hand because reasons. Truly a compelling case.
Samurai Jack is also faster than movie Luke.
It does because characters still have feats. Let's take two swordsmen and compare them. Say....Zoro and Kenshin. Are you really going to argue that they are equals in speed just because they're flashy? Of course not lol.
If you don't press Riku's button, only Riku gets hit. Sora has also reacted to bullets before and that attack was from a guy who created his own pocket dimension. Gonna say they're faster than bullets.
Did his laser beam go from the ground to the moon in under a second? Sora's did. Feats are feats and this feat is actually pretty accurate. It takes light almost exactly one second to go from the moon to earth.
Anyone who has played KH2, especially the final battle, knows Sora is HILARIOUSLY above anyone in the movies.
Come on now, go watch the final fight on youtube and tell me the shit you see in it is something movie Luke could do. Sora swats around large chunks of buildings like nothing.
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Lol @ The Non-Canon fight from KH2FM against Lingering Will being canon. No one in any KH game ever mentions it again, its never brought up in any of the other games, or even hinted at, so I have no reason to believe its canon, nor does anyone else.
Yeah, Riku is getting hit, because he's guarding Sora's back from the other side.
I was pointing out the "In a flash" thing, because you seemed to think it was a big deal, it isn't.
Sora is never able to use such teleporting abilities except against certain opponents, and you can clearly see him grab one of Xaldin's lances and use it against him, same with Xigbar, so on and so forth. He never uses those abilities outside of those respective fights, and each time, they're a different type of teleportation.
I never argued that Keyblade Wielders can't teleport, I'm just saying Sora can't on his own.
Reacting to teleportation doesn't equal having teleportation. There's no clear guarantee Luke wouldn't be able to react to Sora teleporting either.
Will have to look up the moon feat and then come back.
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