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Hair styles - Black characters/White characters

This is something that's just occured today; maybe nothing.
Why is it promenent Black characters seem to go through so many hair style changes - big afro, smaller fro, arsenio cut, bald etc. - while virtually all White charcters charcters stay the same, and don't really change with the times?
What does it mean? Or am I imagining things?

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Actual Peter Parker's hair changes like every other panel..........laughing out loud its like a secondary mutation.......


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lol Hal' Jordan hair changes color's. So did Genis' hair, his also changed colors back when he was in his red costume and still being called Genis-Vell and Captain Marvel. Um, Ultimate Thor's hair got burned off. Uh, lets see, who else, ummmm, oh yea Juggernaut's hair is always changing colors, sometimes he's blonde, sometimes he's a redhead, sometimes he's got brown hair. Uh, Magneto's hair changes alot too, sometimes he has long hair, sometimes he has a normal short haircut. Gladiator's hair also changed a few times, sometimes he has a huge mohawk, then other times he has a short one, then in the Thanos series a few years back his mohawk went into a ponytail-type thing.


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Superboy's mullet. laughing


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no wait, i forgot WONDER MAN! he changes his hair more than probly anyone. Here's all the style's he's had:

-A black crew cut.
-A gray crew cut.
-A black crew cut that parts a little bit in the middle.
-A gray crew cut that parts a little bit in the middle.
-Long black hair.
-A black mullet.
-Slicked back gray hair.
-Slicked back black hair.
-messy black hair. (all over the place)


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Kyle Rayner does that too. He's had about half a dozen styles.


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Wolverine's hair tends to change quite frequently (bangs hanging in the front, etc.). And a note on his body hair, it always depends on the writer. For example I see some comics where he has sparse hair on his arms and then you refer to the time the X-Men were in Asgard and when he was donning his so-called battle attire, he was completely furry.

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I'm saying that Black characters seem to sport what is the predominely cool look in urban culture at the time; when that look switches, so do they. White characters don't seem to do the same thing. Does anyone remember a 1970's comic with a white hero, with long hair and muttonchop sideburns?


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Superman changes his hair every couple of years too.
Sometimes to something new, sometimes to something classic.


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Mid 90's, Superman had long curly hair. That's the only change I ever saw from him.


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Black folk change their hair a lot.


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lol Hal' Jordan hair changes color's. So did Genis' hair, his also changed colors back when he was in his red costume and still being called Genis-Vell and Captain Marvel. Um, Ultimate Thor's hair got burned off. Uh, lets see, who else, ummmm, oh yea Juggernaut's hair is always changing colors, sometimes he's blonde, sometimes he's a redhead, sometimes he's got brown hair. Uh, Magneto's hair changes alot too, sometimes he has long hair, sometimes he has a normal short haircut. Gladiator's hair also changed a few times, sometimes he has a huge mohawk, then other times he has a short one, then in the Thanos series a few years back his mohawk went into a ponytail-type thing.


Most of these have story reasons.

Hal Jordan was growing older and stressed and graying at the temples. It recently was retconned into being a physical manifestation of his Parallax infestation thing.

Genis' changed when he got cosmic awareness, I think.

Juggernaut's hair is mostly just inconsistency, back in the 60s and 70s when he first appeared, the inks and printers weren't as sophisticated, they may have originally wanted him to have red/auburn hair, but the printer messed up, etc. That's why Moon Knight, though always stated to be "jet and silver" appears white, the printers back then couldn't functionally make a silver color. In the 60s they had trouble printing grey tones, which is why after a couple issues the Hulk became green for no apparant reason (later retconned into being an alternate personality thing, etc.)

In Thanos, Gladiator had been in prison, I'm sure they don't allow him his daily allowance of a gallon of dippity-do, thus his shaggy appearance.

In the seventies, most black heroes had afros because the white writers and artists honestly didn't know any better. They were cashing in on the blaxploitation trend, and thought the ghetto fashion part of black culture represented the whole, when it clearly didn't. Christopher Priest (then Jim Owlsly) and "Doc" Bright made it a point to change Misty Knight's ridiculous afro into a sensibly hair style a young black woman might wear. The moment they were off the Cage/Fist title (where Misty and Colleen Wing regularly appeared) and Misty turned up elsewhere, she had the afro back.

That's not to say they were wrong in giving some characters an afro, it was fairly popular, and made a recent comeback of sorts, but to have Luke Cage, Photon, Misty, Black Goliath (to name a character black goliath in the first place is stupid), Black Panther and all the black people appearing in BP's title, Falcon, and more all have an afro of varying sizes turns the afro into a stereotype. Photon/Pulsar/Monica's look in the upcoming NextWave series is nice, she has a "big hair" hair style, but it's not just a formless afro, it's combed back, she has a band, etc. It looks real as does the new Misty Wing look.

Now, all the black male characters have shaved heads, which is getting annoying. Some characters can pull it off. It makes sense for T'Challa, he looked great in Priest's series with the shaved head and stache, it was a mean, cold, business look and he was fierce. Cage just looks like some drug pushing homeboy.

As for Wonder Man's hair, I think there was a lot of confusion in Avengers recently as to how old they should portray him. Some issues he had really grey toned hair, others it was jet black. Busiek made a few nuanced pushes to say that Simon was a veteran of the scene, and that his multiple deaths hadn't been all that becoming.

Some artists need a class on hair, they need to just sit back and look at the various types of hair. A black person's hair is by and large a lot different than a white or asian person's. Curly hair does not come in one succint style. White people can have afros too (King Buzzo from the Melvins). There are some textures that are unattainable in real life, but seem to be prevalant in comics (Norman Osbourne! what is that thing on his head? or Namor, who has this brick hard widows peak). Don't be afraid to make them a bit fantastic, stylized and out-of-this-world (yet still atainable with enough effort!) but keep it grounded, and avoid stereotyping hair.

This is a big post on a miniscule topic, but yeah.


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