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Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Does God Murder People?

This topic has to do with what I think to be the most difficult wall many face when considering joining Christianity. The Bible, especially the Old Testament, makes God look like some ogre in the sky that murders perhaps thousands of people.

Here are some example of God's "victims":
1. God floods the entire earth, which kills everyone on the plant besides about ten people.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-6-17/

2. God rains heavenly fire and destruction on a city known as Sodom and kills every single person within the vicinity besides about 8 people.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-19-24/

3. God wipes out an entire army by drowning them in the Red Sea.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-15-4/

There are many more examples I could get into, but all of these should be enough. So the question is: If God is so holy and righteous, why does He kill people? If he tells us to not murder, then He is a hypocrite.

This took awhile for me to understand, but soon enough, I did (after some research). Here are some reasons God can kill people and still not violate his existence:

1. When a king makes the laws, he can change and make exceptions whenever he pleases.

2. The murder God performs is very different than the form He restricts us from committing. For us, we shall not murder anyone out of the darkness and cruelty of our hearts. Well, God isn't killing them because of "inner darkness", but rather, for justice. The Bible actually has numerous verses telling the government of God's people to kill certain people and criminals. This is another point to justice.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Leviticus-24-17/

3. In the examples I showed you, God killed evil people. The Bible states that the entire city of Sodom was completely infested with murderers, sodomites, and other wicked people. The Bible states that everyone killed in the flood was evil as well. Lastly, the Bible states that the army of Egypt followed a knowingly cruel and oppressive king.

Many questions and arguments can be made from this excerpt, but the main point should be the reason that God wipes out these people.

He wipes them out so that they don't infect any of his people. He wipes them out because they completely deserve it. He has given each and every one a chance, and they knew God, but continued to live their own way.

The most important thing is to remember that, though it is beyond our understanding, God cares for all of us deeply (with a few exceptions I suppose).
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-3-16/

Whether you are a Christian or not, God cares about you all deeply. Whether you choose to accept it or not is up to you.

God bless.



The Holy Standards of God:

God is pure holiness. All of his ideas, solutions, and laws come from a holy source. Here are a few verses suggesting His holiness:

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Samuel-2-2/

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Leviticus-19-2/

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Isaiah-6-3/

God's laws and standards are very different than our own. But why? Well, think about it. The Lord is the pinnacle of holiness, therefore, His laws are more righteous than our own. Simply the fact that God is omniscient alone should be enough to acknowledge His superiority in regards to laws.

God's holiness trumps our own to such a degree that His laws might no make sense to us. Here are a few verse in regards to our inferior holiness:

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-3-23/

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-John-1-8/

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-10-10/

Therefore, debating God's evilness is very difficult considering the fact the He knows beyond what we do.

Many people leave the Christian faith due to God's "treacherous" behavior or actions. In reality, the Bible states that, once you are a Christian, there is literally nothing that can separate you from the Lord. Therefore, those that leave the Christian faith because they disagree with God's words were never actually a Christian in the first place. They debate that somehow their own idea of holiness outclasses God's, which is purely illogical.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-8-35/

I will also go over a misconception regarding Isaiah 45:7:
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Isaiah-45-7/
(Credit goes to Scribble)

Though, I see how this would be confusing to the reader, it is not what it seems to be at first glance. In every other recent translation of the Bible, the word "evil" is replaced with "calamity" which refers to hardship. Hardship is not evil, and, if anything, actually is a punishment used by God. This "evil" is also considered punishment in Isaiah 47:10-11.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Isaiah-47-10_47-11/

Here is another source that supports this idea:

http://evangelicalarminians.org/g-h-clark-claims-god-creates-sin/

Why did God create a world that He knew would be evil? Well, for instance, we have already established that God does not create evil, but punishment. The Bible states that God gaved us, unlike everything else of this earth, freedom to make choices.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-2-16_2-17/

So humans ultimately made the evil of this world. Though God knew of all the people going to Hell, it is actually fine. Through God's standards, which I have proved is far greater and stranger to our own, has it that all evil people will go to Hell.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-21-8/

Only through the forgiveness of Jesus Christ will one escape what we ultimately deserve.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-3-16/

I give some serious credit to Pastor John Piper for today's look on things. He did a very good job with his message, and I fully support listening to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciw9ECBu29o&feature=emb_logo

I hope anyone reading this has a God blessed day. smile 
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