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Originally posted by Juntai
These people suggesting he is just an equal to Hulk have only continued to carry on this many pages because of an adnauseum logical fallacy. Trying to measure a cherry-picked scan or two against the entire body of work and all the arguments being cemented repeatedly against them from the beginning in a clear case of intentional obfuscation. Using clearly wild comparisons, ignoring all the evidence that can't be twisted to support their preconceived notion of what they feel it -should- be, rather than what evidence suggests it is.

The fact of the matter is, in DOS, in only a handful of issues, his speed was stated over and over, a dozen or more times. Writers intent is VERY clear. Again, in Hunter/Prey, in only a couple prestige issues his speed was again mentioned over and over, and shown that he could crawl from the ground, run a length of field, and blitz Darkseid before he could even completely turn his head around. A man who up to that point in time had zero problems dealing with Superman's speed. Again in the follow-up story where Brainiac actually steals him from the end of H/P[same body, power, etc, just with Brainiac's mind], his speed is again a factor, and finally see that even Flash is unable to escape him when he first appears and is KOed. Later again when the league confronts him, Flash again is leaving massive trails rolling in at Superspeed behind him[only a few feet back], and is unable to get there in between which Brainy/Doomsday grabs Wonder Woman, ties her up with her own lasso, then spins her around and collapses Flash as he approaches using her as a weapon. Even during the story of battling the Khunds, a couple guys see him from a distance rampaging and the very next panel is his fist smashing one of the guys faces in.

Just because someone can come up with a few times in 60 years of history of someone claiming Hulk is quick and surprised them, doesn't remove all the times he was made to look foolish by faster characters, including all the way down to characters Spiderman, Captain America, and Wolverine.

Doomsday up until the laughable semi-intelligent fire-breathing abomination of a Doomsday never had trouble with anyone's speed, and never did after that either.

And even still, none of this removes what is clearly writers intent, despite not leaving afterimages or blurring in panels, or a lack of feats concerning a character who has only a few appearances in history.....in the space of a literal handful of comics we're reminded of him being faster, stronger and more savage than everyone else- repeatedly.

While you can try to reason away this scan, or that, or say this or that is only character claims, you can't begin to disclaim the entire body of work, dozens of mentionings by characters, narration and likewise visual representation in combat in only a very few issues.

I dare anyone to find a miniseries for the Hulk where he was not only visually overrunning nearly everyone before they react, but the characters[many of them with superspeed at that] and narration are both suggesting he's too fast to counter repeatedly until the end of the arc.

If you can't, you must concede.

Simply as that.

Put up the goods or forget it.