Originally posted by SSJGGogetaI'm not changing my name, because I like Gogeta MUCH more than Vegetto, but if Gogeta fought Vegetto, he would lose unless his fusion lasted more than thirty minutes, maybe around 45, and he could definitely win if he had an hour.
Gogeta could have permanent fusion and he'd still lose.
Originally posted by Based
Gogeta could have permanent fusion and he'd still lose.
And this?
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
@ Supra: *SIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHH* I already explained this. Gogeta is slightly superior in overall strength, but Vegetto is superior as he would be able to hold out against Gogeta until he unfused. It's a simple concept that the old Kai explained. Vegetto is superior, as in he would ultimately win in a fight with the series limitations. However, Gogeta would win in a fight where his fusion was somehow permanent. That's all there is to it.
Originally posted by Supra
So SS Gogeta is wrong in saying he is stronger?
Again, you are twisting my words to try and make them seem to be in your favor. Gogeta is superior in overall strength, but he would lose in a cannon fight because Vegetto doesn't have a time limit and could endure Gogeta's onslaught for thirty minutes to kill Goku and Vegeta with a kiai shout.
Stop spouting lies to try and make things go your way. You're a sore loser, and you're making yourself look retarded again.
How am I twisting your words, you said he was stronger, OP stated before you said he was stronger that the fusion was permanent.
Gogeta wins this thread.
Even given the 30 min time constraint, he could summon that spirit bomb and desimate Vegetto just like he did Janemba in 3 seconds. No matter how you want to spin it, Gogeta has stronger shown feats then Vegetto's guesstimated strength's you all want to revel in and you want to take comic releif characters as actual truth's when they can't even save themselves..they have to have Goku do all the work for them and they sit back and watch from a crystal ball.
Originally posted by Supra
How am I twisting your words, you said he was stronger, OP stated before you said he was stronger that the fusion was permanent.Gogeta wins this thread.
Even given the 30 min time constraint, he could summon that spirit bomb and desimate Vegetto just like he did Janemba in 3 seconds. No matter how you want to spin it, Gogeta has stronger shown feats then Vegetto's guesstimated strength's you all want to revel in and you want to take comic releif characters as actual truth's when they can't even save themselves..they have to have Goku do all the work for them and they sit back and watch from a crystal ball.
For the last ****ing time, Gogeta can't/hasn't use/d spirit bomb. It looked nothing like spirit bomb, and was rainbow colored, as well as the size of a tennis ball, whereas spirit bomb is a multi-mile in diameter massive ball of pure blue energy. They are completely different, and if it was a spirit bomb, it was less than 1/1000th the size of the one used against kid Buu, and proves Janemba to be pitifully weak compared to Buu, which he isn't(i.e. Stop using flawed logic, you're making your favorite character look weak.).
Whatever, Gogeta wins this thread, but in a cannon fight, he loses. You just had to give him extra abilities to give him a chance, which is pitiful.
Just because the Kai's can't hurt Buu doesn't mean they're weak. They were each a thousand times stronger than Frieza. Buu was just completely different. Again, Gogeta would lose in an actual fight. It's been endlessly proven. This thread is completely retarded and pointless.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
For the last ****ing time, Gogeta can't/hasn't use/d spirit bomb. It looked nothing like spirit bomb, and was rainbow colored, as well as the size of a tennis ball, whereas spirit bomb is a multi-mile in diameter massive ball of pure blue energy. They are completely different, and if it was a spirit bomb, it was less than 1/1000th the size of the one used against kid Buu, and proves Janemba to be pitifully weak compared to Buu, which he isn't(i.e. Stop using flawed logic, you're making your favorite character look weak.).Whatever, Gogeta wins this thread, but in a cannon fight, he loses. You just had to give him extra abilities to give him a chance, which is pitiful.
Just because the Kai's can't hurt Buu doesn't mean they're weak. They were each a thousand times stronger than Frieza. Buu was just completely different. Again, Gogeta would lose in an actual fight. It's been endlessly proven. This thread is completely retarded and pointless.
And this?
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I live on Earth obviously. You apparently live in your own fabricated world of delusion where GT is cannon and I'M the retard in this equation. Go **** your mother some more please, dipshit, and leave the debating to adults.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
First of all, it's "you're", not "your".Secondly, simple logic says a star/solar system buster that goes so FTL that he can outpace Yamcha easily, who is faster than DB Tien who could punch and move FTL, would easily beat a planet buster who moves slower than Nappa(and still rapes his opponent, proving Omega is a pussy-fart). Cannon Cell stomps all of DBGT without breaking a sweat at once, including SSJ4 Gogeta.
I live on Earth obviously. You apparently live in your own fabricated world of delusion where GT is cannon and I'M the retard in this equation. Go **** your mother some more please, dipshit, and leave the debating to adults.
I'm getting pretty tired of people not listening to me. I suppose that some people are mistaking my kindness for weakness. Well, I'm handing out temp bans now.
Maybe I need to speak Latin, or Greek, or Sanskrit because, obviously, nobody understands me.
Back to topic, everyone. The next person to bash gets an automatic temp ban.
Originally posted by Supra
So SS Gogeta is wrong in saying he is stronger?
Unless SSJ4 Gogeta is being taken into account, then yes. Otherwise, even without a time limit, Gogeta is inferior by way of the Fusion dance creating inherently less powerful beings than what the Potara does with the same characters in the same situation ie, a SSJ4 Vegeto would've also been more powerful than SSJ4 Gogeta. The Fusion combines only the equalized-thus on one end's case, reduced-powers of two people, the Potara combines the FULL powers of them and, at least in Vegeto's case, multiplies that combination. Gogeta's only claim to victory in this thread is SSJ4 if it's being counted.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine👆
Unless SSJ4 Gogeta is being taken into account, then yes. Otherwise, even without a time limit, Gogeta is inferior by way of the Fusion dance creating inherently less powerful beings than what the Potara does with the same characters in the same situation ie, a SSJ4 Vegeto would've also been more powerful than SSJ4 Gogeta. The Fusion combines only the equalized-thus on one end's case, reduced-powers of two people, the Potara combines the FULL powers of them and, at least in Vegeto's case, multiplies that combination. Gogeta's [b]only claim to victory in this thread is SSJ4 if it's being counted. [/B]
This 110%
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
The Fusion combines only the equalized-thus on one end's case, reduced-powers of two people, the Potara combines the FULL powers of them and, at least in Vegeto's case, multiplies that combination. Gogeta's [b]only claim to victory in this thread is SSJ4 if it's being counted. [/B]
When was it stated the potara multiplied power?
Power levels needing to be reduced/equalized pre fusion doesn't necessarily prove their combined powers are similarly restricted after they become a single, unified being.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Unless SSJ4 Gogeta is being taken into account, then yes. Otherwise, even without a time limit, Gogeta is inferior by way of the Fusion dance creating inherently less powerful beings than what the Potara does with the same characters in the same situation ie, a SSJ4 Vegeto would've also been more powerful than SSJ4 Gogeta. The Fusion combines only the equalized-thus on one end's case, reduced-powers of two people, the Potara combines the FULL powers of them and, at least in Vegeto's case, multiplies that combination. Gogeta's [b]only claim to victory in this thread is SSJ4 if it's being counted. [/B]
I'm sorry man but this counts as a win.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
Against Vegeto, no it doesn't. Unless there's a concrete piece of info that can indicate that video putting him above someone who was able to more soundly deal with a more powerful villain as a PIECE OF CANDY (on top of what I already said previously), tht video counts for nothing.
There is nothing concrete other then the fact Gogeta beat Janemba and formed a Super Saijen Fusion, and the Porta Rings formed a base version and they had to test there power's out for a whole episode to see what lvl they where at, still could not beat Buu and then had to power up to Super Saijen.
Originally posted by Supra
There is nothing concrete other then the fact Gogeta beat Janemba and formed a Super Saijen Fusion, and the Porta Rings formed a base version and they had to test there power's out for a whole episode to see what lvl they where at, still could not beat Buu and then had to power up to Super Saijen.
Gogeta starting as SSJ means nothing. Unless Gotenks could also stomp Gogeta and Vegetto, because he fused from base Goten and Trunks to SSJ3 Gotenks in Wrath of the Dragon. Gogeta went SSJ immediately because Janemba would have beat him otherwise. Again, it was stated in the manga that potara was superior. Gogeta loses.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Gogeta starting as SSJ means nothing. Unless Gotenks could also stomp Gogeta and Vegetto, because he fused from base Goten and Trunks to SSJ3 Gotenks in Wrath of the Dragon. Gogeta went SSJ immediately because Janemba would have beat him otherwise. Again, it was stated in the manga that potara was superior. Gogeta loses.
This isn't even the right thread, why are we talking about this here anyways?
Back on Topic
SS4 Gogeta Wins
Originally posted by SupraLOL you were the one who brought up that Vegetto was weaker than Gogeta again.
This isn't even the right thread, why are we talking about this here anyways?Back on Topic
SS4 Gogeta Wins
Anyway, Goku managed to get stronger in base form from ten years, than he was in SSJ3. 20 years would be more than enough for his SSJ2-3 to be far over SSJ4 Gogeta when he fought Omega.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
LOL you were the one who brought up that Vegetto was weaker than Gogeta again.Anyway, Goku managed to get stronger in base form from ten years, than he was in SSJ3. 20 years would be more than enough for his SSJ2-3 to be far over SSJ4 Gogeta when he fought Omega.
We are never going to agree on this, can we talk about something else?