LT's powers do not go up or down like the spectre and the guy is reallyyyyyyyyy pathetic when you get down to his feats.
he has:
run from korvac in a fight when korvac was stronger then eternity he said himself korvac has gone beyond my jugdment
he has trouble with dr strange when they first met he had trouble with strange and later strange defied him i believe
but the nail in the coffin is in a recent comic the living jobber was taken out by..........REED RICHARDS and no nobody can say that never happend even if its a alternate world or timeline if LT appeared its him there is only one LT thats the rule he is the only LT there is AND HE LOST TO FREAKING REED RICHARDS!
lucifer has taken on the armies of heaven and outsmarted them, he has made his own universe or multiverse with help of course they say he can make one universe by himself but needs his bro for a multiverse, he once told the spectre to bugger off and the spectre left with his head low, lucifer has done alot of crazy stuff he once changed the rules of the universe just to beat a enemy, he gave a demon a spirit so instead of going into oblivion he'd go to hell, death of DC was scared of him, he beat a guy who was a clone of him and should have nullified his powers. He's one bad mofo, LT doesnt have the brains of the power to take on him, he can enter MU and say you know what from now on your no longer LT your a ant and it might very well happen since he did that to the above mentioned enemy i believe the silk man.
Last edited by Mider on Jun 17th, 2006 at 07:30 AM
For what we hold Living Tribunal to be, he never close showed feats to give him to be the second most powerful in MU, behind Phoenix.
Look what feats Phoenix had, man. The greatest feats MU has ever seen, if not comic universe, outstanding.
For what power Living Tribunal represents, he didn't show anything to be worthy.
He didn't know if he could deafeat IG. He lost to Korvac who said to have powers of some abstracts.
Lost to Reed Richards. Was defied by Dr. Strange. Anywhere you see LT, it's canon, since he is Multiversal.
Only what good is with him, is when IG destroyed Eternity, Lord Chaos and Master Order that LT was unfazed. That is why I give him beyond other abstracts and to be the seocnd in MU, but still he should have far greater feats than he has.
Yes maybe, but the question is Why would he need to do anything if he is that powerful my friend? So some people may be stronger than him, big whoop. The point still stands that if you were a god you wouldnt always need to do things yourself you would get other people to do it. sometimes the air of authority is enough by itself, because if marvel went and gave him loads of feats it would give him a understandable power level. We dont really know how strong he is, except he is said to be second, and no-one in the MU has any qualms about that. Feats dont always equal power, they just help us to debate and compare.
yeah right stop defending him i can hate on whoever i wish for the proper reasons get over it that comic is not out of continuity pal LT has no doubles or M-bodies if he shows up in a comic he is there for real there is only ONE LT i dont admit he rocks anything and who cares if he would be like any other joe, even spectre has feats and he is still not like anyone else.
You guys are forgetting that the Living Tribunal doesnt have a need to show off feats. He is absolutely nuetral. He isn't on the side of "good" like the way Spectre is. Spectre takes his job personally. Living Tribunal does not. He's not a "super hero" or "super villian".
He did not fight Thanos with IG because he felt that Thanos was not violating the most imporant natural law: Survival of the Fittest.
When he confronted Adam Warlock with IG, he said that such a confrontation would lay waste to this reality. He did NOT want that reality to be destroyed, which is why he resorted to Diplomacy instead of using super duper ultra mega powerful multiple reality erasing attacks on Adam (like Spectre would have typically done :rolleyes
He even repelled Adam Warlock's IG attack on the rest of the MArvel cosmics in that celestial court void.
Living Tribunal is definately more powerful than Infiniti Gauntlet, he represents the One Above All.
And REMEMBER: Infiniti Gems back then were so much more powerful than they are now. Thanks to retcon, Pheonix Force is more powerful than IG, and now there are so many BS uber mega ultra powerful relics (like HOTU) so Ig looks like nothing now.
Point is Living Tribunal can beat Lucifer if he is powered enough by the One Above All.
he isnt above the IG he stated he didnt know if he could handle it, and he got defeated by reed richards recently, he's also been defied by dr strange, and strange has staved off his attacks when they first met, he ran from a above eternity powered korvac, to say he is just not wanting to show off makes him a real pathetic character pointing out that he's failed to do his duty more then once and thus is a failure to TOAA.