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Would the avg. ARC trooper beat a Magna Bodyguard?
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ARC vs.IG-100 MagnaGuards
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darthsith19
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ARC vs.IG-100 MagnaGuards

One avg. ARC Trooper vs. One Magna Bodyguard. I don't know about this one, but I'm leaning on the ARC.Magna Bodyguards (Grievous's Bodyguards) have proven strong enough to threaten the lives of Jedi, but ARC's are almost as strong as Jango himself (just one step down). And didn't Alpha (one of the main ARC's) kill a shielded Destroyer Droid in The Defense of Kamino? And for anyone who knows Labrinth of Evil better than I do, were any Jedi killed by Magna Bodyguards in that book?

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Darth_Glentract
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I think an ARC Trooper because the droids can't block blaster bolts.


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Don't know enough about either. I know Magna's gave Obi and Anakin little difficulty in a melee fight. I know Arc's are pretty strong and nearly comparable to Jango himself. Don't know, if Arc's can maintain distance, they take it, but if Magna's get in melee range, it's over. I say Magna's on pure speculation.

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darthsith19
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Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I think an ARC Trooper because the droids can't block blaster bolts.


So they can't block blaster bolts. Does that make them insuperior to standard Battle Droids? Anyway, it takes alot of laser bolts to destroy one (remember when Mace saw one being hauled away in labrinth of Evil with tons of blaster bolts in it?).

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Janus Marius
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With a blaster and some distance, an ARC could perhaps win. Up close? Pwned. I mean, Jangotatt lost to a JK droid and they are nothing compared to a Magnaguard.... IF I remember correctly.

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darthsith19
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Originally posted by Ianus
With a blaster and some distance, an ARC could perhaps win. Up close? Pwned. I mean, Jangotatt lost to a JK droid and they are nothing compared to a Magnaguard.... IF I remember correctly.

I don't know about that. Kit had trouble defeating one JK droid.

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Janus Marius
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That is true. It was close.

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And Obi-Wan nearly fell against one as well. Or was it two? Either way, I'd say the JK's are a cut above a MagnaGuard. This isn't to say that a MagnaGuard couldn't possibly defeat a JK. But the odds are against it.

In this scenario however, I'd hand it to the MagnaGuard. In LOE, six of them decimated Palpatine's guard, which consisted of several Red Guards and at least a dozen clones.

And what's to say that the MagnaGuards can't block blaster bolts? Grievous can do it with his bare hands, and if the droids are really as good as LOE makes them out to be, then it is likely that they can.

The ARC trooper would have a chance, but I think the extarordinary abilities that the MagnaGuards possess would guarantee them a victory.

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And Obi-Wan nearly fell against one as well. Or was it two? Either way, I'd say the JK's are a cut above a MagnaGuard. This isn't to say that a MagnaGuard couldn't possibly defeat a JK. But the odds are against it.

I agree. And I think it was one.
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In this scenario however, I'd hand it to the MagnaGuard. In LOE, six of them decimated Palpatine's guard, which consisted of several Red Guards and at least a dozen clones.

So what? That's like, one guard and 2 clones each, right? Don't you think an ARC could do that?
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And what's to say that the MagnaGuards can't block blaster bolts? Grievous can do it with his bare hands, and if the droids are really as good as LOE makes them out to be, then it is likely that they can.

Wait, Grievous can block blaster bolts? When does he do this? And since the Magna Guards can't use the Force it's unlikely they can block blaster bolts since they'd need to know exactly where the bolt's going and move it's electro staff before the bolt hit it. And do we even know if electro staff's can block blaster bolts?
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The ARC trooper would have a chance, but I think the extarordinary abilities that the MagnaGuards possess would guarantee them a victory.

Hmm. Okay. But couldn't the ARC just hit the Magna Bodyguard with it's missle launcher?

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Yeah, probably. I say the ARC Troopers, they just need to keep their distance while the opposing Magna Guards would need to make it through heavy blaster (and maybe rocket, if the ARC's have a rocket launcher) and close the distance to ARC Troopers in retreat (backing up while firing).


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by darthsith19
So what? That's like, one guard and 2 clones each, right? Don't you think an ARC could do that?


Possibly they could, yes. But with more than one casualty. They'd probably lose half their squad.

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Wait, Grievous can block blaster bolts? When does he do this? And since the Magna Guards can't use the Force it's unlikely they can block blaster bolts since they'd need to know exactly where the bolt's going and move it's electro staff before the bolt hit it. And do we even know if electro staff's can block blaster bolts?


Have you read Labyrinth of Evil? Well, for dramatic effect (read The Grievous Theory, I'll post it), he deflects the initial barrage of blaster bolts from the trigger-happy clones with his bare hands.

And if a MagnaGuard can hang with a Jedi, why don't you think they can deflect blasters? there are dozens of passages in LOE that describe the vast abilities of the MagnaGuards, so please read it. I don't want to get into copying the lines again.

Yes, we do know that electro-staffs can deflect blaster bolts. Phrrik alloy, lightsaber-resistant. . . Didn't you see ROTS?

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Hmm. Okay. But couldn't the ARC just hit the Magna Bodyguard with it's missle launcher?


If the ARC could hit it. Normal blasters, even blaster rifles, will prove relatively ineffective against IG-100's, as they can either deflect them or take them in the chest. It took several dozen shots to bring down a single MagnaGuard, and that was from multiple troopers. The rocket launcher would need to be loaded, aimed, and fired within a couple of seconds, or the MagnaGuard will tear apart the trooper. The problem, as stated, would be hitting the Guard,

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Even when Obi beheaded a IG-100 it still continued to fight. I don't think blaster bolts would be that effective on a IG-100 MagnaDroid.


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Well, with enough of them, they can be. But it won't be the easiest route.

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Forgive my ignorence, but what's a JK Droid?


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Have you read Labyrinth of Evil? Well, for dramatic effect (read The Grievous Theory, I'll post it), he deflects the initial barrage of blaster bolts from the trigger-happy clones with his bare hands.

Yes, once.
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And if a MagnaGuard can hang with a Jedi, why don't you think they can deflect blasters? there are dozens of passages in LOE that describe the vast abilities of the MagnaGuards, so please read it. I don't want to get into copying the lines again.

There's many books I have to read again. I'm merely stating that it'd be hard for droids to percieve where a blaster bolt will hit them and move fast enough to block it before it hits them.
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Yes, we do know that electro-staffs can deflect blaster bolts. Phrrik alloy, lightsaber-resistant. . . Didn't you see ROTS?

Yes. That doesn't mean they can block lightsabers, though does it?
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If the ARC could hit it. Normal blasters, even blaster rifles, will prove relatively ineffective against IG-100's, as they can either deflect them or take them in the chest. It took several dozen shots to bring down a single MagnaGuard, and that was from multiple troopers. The rocket launcher would need to be loaded, aimed, and fired within a couple of seconds, or the MagnaGuard will tear apart the trooper. The problem, as stated, would be hitting the Guard,

Well, I assume it'd be loaded already and hitting the guard wouldn't be to hard. I mean, they're Advanced Reconm Commandos, so they almost definately wouldn't miss, and even if they did it wopuldn't be by much and the impact of the rocket would still damage the droid.

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Originally posted by darthsith19
There's many books I have to read again. I'm merely stating that it'd be hard for droids to percieve where a blaster bolt will hit them and move fast enough to block it before it hits them.


Grievous and five remaining droids completed their march to the bunker, deflecting the fire of three troopers guarding the entrance. . .

Even if they get hit, it took dozens of blaster bolts to bring down a single droid, unlike the clones, who in ROTS went down in one. A machine that can fight after being decapacitated, having limbs dismembered, and being pierced by enough bolts to bring down a squad of clones isn't going to be destroyed very easily.

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Yes. That doesn't mean they can block lightsabers, though does it?


I don't understand. . . Lightsaber-resistant? The staffs. Block lightsabers. Block blaster bolts. Does that answer it?

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Well, I assume it'd be loaded already and hitting the guard wouldn't be to hard. I mean, they're Advanced Reconm Commandos, so they almost definately wouldn't miss, and even if they did it wouldn't be by much and the impact of the rocket would still damage the droid.


Don't get me wrong; the ARC isn't a poor shot, not by far. But do you think it could hit an upper-tier Jedi with a rocket launcher? The MagnaGuards are imbued with amazing abilities. Extreme agility, magentized soles, unimaginably quick reflexes. . . They aren't Grievous's prize 'accomplices' for nothing.

The IG-100 takes this fight, although if the clone can pull the right moves, he may stand a chance.

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I'd actually have to go with the ARC Trooper here. I've seen them do some awesome stuff in the comics. They are also the best of the best when it comes to nearly all the clones. In Republic Commando, one Clone Commando was a match for one IG-100... and ARC Trooper's are better than them, so I'm gonna have to go with the ARC Trooper.


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You can't really go by gameplay mechanics. Otherwise I could say that T6 in KOTOR could take out teams of Dark Jedi.

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