I havent seen this one yet: How would the likes of Superman, Green Lantern, Thor or Silver Surfer (to name a few) do against the Starship Enterprise (any version)?
As food for thought, I've tried to convert some superpowers into real-world amounts of energy, ie, megawatts. For example: 1 megawatt would yield a strength level of about 10,000 men. This is cheap, when you consider that to be able to withstand an explosion of one ton of TNT would require about 4000 megawatts.
Tritanium actually.... with abladive armour.... plus they have to get past the shields..... and the Phasers ....... and Quantum Torpedoes make nukes look like fireworks
Supes and an untrained GL get pwn3d against Picard's Enterprise. Supes is a scanner sweep away from getting a pulse of red sunlight and kryptonian radiation shot at him and a quantum torpedo to the mouth. Surfer and a High end GL like John or Hal are a better match. Problem with GLs in particular is that once the Enterprise scanners pick up on Oan energy sigs his abilities are a Data and Geordi brainstorm away from being neutralized. Possibly Surfer as well. I don't know how well the Enterprise would do against Thor due to his magic abilities. All of the other characters are EM Spectrum based and susceptible to Starfleet Tech in the right, capable hands.
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Supes and an untrained GL get pwn3d against Picard's Enterprise. Supes is a scanner sweep away from getting a pulse of red sunlight and kryptonian radiation shot at him and a quantum torpedo to the mouth. Surfer and a High end GL like John or Hal are a better match. Problem with GLs in particular is that once the Enterprise scanners pick up on Oan energy sigs his abilities are a Data and Geordi brainstorm away from being neutralized. Possibly Surfer as well. I don't know how well the Enterprise would do against Thor due to his magic abilities. All of the other characters are EM Spectrum based and susceptible to Starfleet Tech in the right, capable hands.
Wow! Now, there's a guy who knows something about his own ship.
Because Star Trek's group will make shit up. There's even a song about it. They've even admitted it in offset interviews. I mean of course its all fake, but even in their created universe they make shit up every few episodes.
Gladiator in one easy punch took down the shields 20% in one crossover. The same thing would happen from Superman, except now he's bloodlusted as opposed to Glad, and will use heat vision at the same time... not to mention throwing 1000 of those in a second.
Any GL could just think and crush it, or contain it in a bubble.
Surfer could.. uhh.. . wave a hand at the Galaxy it's in?
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that was the Enterprise (or Enterprise A) Enterprise E shields are vastly superior to anything Kirk ever used...... as are it's weapons.... and everything else
the deflector shields deal with objects going much faster than that (reletively speaking) when the ship is in warp... the full shields will barely register him
or they could move out the way... or just blow it up
Huh. Some actual argument for Picard and crew. I'm a bit shocked, but sure...whatever works. The heroes should be able to dodge for days though...it's not like the Enterprise can maneuver well, even if it can travel the galaxy faster.
The deflector shields only have to deal with interstellar dust and the odd stray hydrogen atom. This is stated in the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
They do not deal with meteors.
The Enterprise would not be able to move fast enough to avoid a meteor thrown at it at superspeed - not without going to warp: removing them off the battlefield.
And blowing it to pieces? Not a chance. The Enterprise D fired on a Borg Cube in their first encounter (Q Who?) with the Borg cube not having any kind of shields up. Attacking bare metal the Enterprise only managed to leave some fairly large craters - each less than the size of the Enterprise.
In Star Trek the Final Frontier - Kirk and co are down on the planet in the centre of the Galaxy with 'God' - the Enterprise fires photon torpedoes at a point not far away from them and they survive totally unharmed despite the proximity of the explosion.
Unless Quantum torpedoes are XXXXX times more powerful than photons, the meteor is not being destroyed.
The only thing I've every seen weaponry wise that'd deal enough damage to destroy a meteor twice the size of the ship is tri-cobaly devices, as used in the second episode of the first series of Voyager.
Against Superman or any other high-powered Superhero - the Enterprise - NCC1701, A, B, C, D, E - is gonna be utterly destroyed.
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Hm. Well I wasn't sure which side to take, but the Enterprise supporters have convinced me with intelligent arguments, while all I'm getting from the other side is "OMG wtf lolz," basically. I guess my vote goes for an Enterprise win, in light of the facts as presented.
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they deal with any and all space objects in their way when at warp
the Phaser cut through the Borg Cube like it wasn't even there the first time they fired on it.... then the Borg beamed over and analyzed the Enterprises weaponry.... after that the Phasers and Photons had no effect
the yield of each torpedo can be configured for varying volumes of explosive force..... it's entirely conceivable that the Enterprise crew didn't want to blow Kirk up
Fair enough. That post went in after I finished reading and started posting myself, so obviously I wasn't able to take it into account when I wrote my own post.
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Sep 14th, 2005 04:56 PM
That post went in after I finished reading and started posting myself, so obviously I wasn't able to take it into account when I wrote my own post. 
