My votes for Sinister based solely on the fact that he has a week of prep and knows Apocalypse's weaknesses like the back of his hand. He has already bio-engineered the instrument of Apocalypse's destruction before, and more than likely could clone another (or a few) Cable/Stryfe/X-Man in a week through accelerated cloning techniques.
Or he could simply create a machine that attacks Apocalypse's molecular cohesion at the atomic level.
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Only catch is Apoc could use the week of prep beefing up his defenses and removing his molecular cohesion weakness, which would effectively leave him invincible to any type of physical/energy/matter manipulation attacks, and leave him slightly vulnerable to psionics.
No prep, I see Apoc seriously crushing Sinister head up.
In terms of sheer power, Apocalypse literally shit-stomps Sinister. But in terms of prep? Apoc has demonstrated some good tech prep before, but Essex has him outclassed in devious, raw cunning.
Question is, will it matter? A week seems a bit short for Sinister to come up with something. And as mentioned, Nur is not without his own prep stuff.
^ yeah, apoc likes to let his opponents make a grandiose speech explaining how they've won, only to flip it all around with his own superior prep that calculated the prep of his opponent and surpasses it.
stryfe got the better of sinister so he isn't perfect.
Apocalypse destroys him. Mr. Sinister was preparing his whole life to destroy Apocalypse, still hasn't succeed. Apocalypse in one moment would destroy him for good, if he chooses so. Also about pure intelligence, Apocalypse is smarter than him.
Apocalypse is leagues above in all departments that it isn't even funny.
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It says something about how hard it is to kill Apoc that Sinister tried 3 times to kill him, and failed each time. Nate Grey was the only thing he ever made that might have done it. And that took a life time of research and careful gene manipulation and growth.
Apocalypse destroys him like the backstabber he is.
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how exactly does apoc take sinister out? sinister has sh!t stomped the xmen/xfactor as easily as apoc has, he's stood toe-to-toe with goblyn queen maddie, his psionics were enough to impress exodus. he's amped himself with dna from loads of mutants so essentially he's a walking amalgam.
BOTH have low showings, but BOTH have very high ones as well. at their respective bests, i think this is far closer than most are saying.
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If you want to get technical he has, indirectly, via the creation of Cable by manipulating Madelyn Pryor and Cyclops into getting together. Bear in mind, it was Cable who managed to finally kill Apoc, albiet with help. So in the long term, you could say Sinister had suceeded in the end.
Of what consequence are you now? These people, this world, they are nothing - the universe is power, pure unstoppable power - and I am that force, I am that power.
Which is why I clarified my statements with words like If you want to get technical and indirectly. Directly speaking, Sinister hasn't even gotten close to beating Apoc. However, in the long term, his original machinations led to Nur's eventual death. Who knows what would've happened if Cable had *not* been around to deliver the coup de grace that killed Apoc?
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