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Would the Rapture change you?

If suddenly you where left behind when God decides to rapture his people, would you change your ways and believe? Or would you subject yourselves to the lies of the Anti-Christ and ignore the prophecy fulfilled.

Even if you dont believe in God or the Bible just answer.

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If suddenly you where left behind when God decides to rapture his people, would you change your ways and believe? Or would you subject yourselves to the lies of the Anti-Christ and ignore the prophecy fulfilled.

Even if you dont believe in God or the Bible just answer.


First: that rapture is not in the bible.
Secondly: if there was such a thing, and you were left behind, it is too late.
Finlay: the anti-christ is a spirit according to the bible and not a person.

All of this happened some 1500 years ago.


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There will be a change at the 2nd coming, praise the Lord.

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Corinthians 15:52-55

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Thessalonians 4:16,17

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The secret rapture doctrine contradicts the words of Christ in Matthew chapter 13 when He said that the wheat and tares would grow together until the "end of the world" and then would be separated. According to the two-stage teaching of His coming, both groups would not grow together until the end of the world. The righteous would be separated from the wicked seven years before the end. And what about the promise of the resurrection? Christ said, concerning the righteous, "And I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:40. No one denies that this means the last day of the world. Yet Paul declares that the saints are caught up to meet the Lord at the same time the dead in Christ are raised. He says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17.

Please keep in mind that Jesus called this resurrection the "last day." But how could it be the "last day" if this gathering of the saints takes place seven years before the end of the world? And how could the "last trump" sound if it really wasn't the very last moment of time?

Can you imagine the graves opening and the righteous rising and no one knowing that it had occurred? And consider this additional testimony of the Word of God:

Revelation 6:16, 17 When the wicked see Christ come, they cry out to the rocks and mountains, "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Matthew 24:27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

1 Corinthians 15:52 "For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised."

Psalm 50:3 "Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence."

Revelation 1:7 "Every eye shall see him."

Matthew 24:30 "Then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

Matthew 24:31 "He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (This is clearly the time when Christ comes to gather His saints.)

To say that the second coming of Christ to gather His saints will be secret, in view of these clear texts of Scripture, and in the absence of any text that even hints at His coming being secret, is to deny the Bible as the Word of God. In an attempt to uphold their contrived theory, the rapturists quote Matthew 24:40, 41 out of context. Notice this entire passage:

"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." Matthew 24: 37-41.

Jesus is clearly drawing a parallel between the second coming and the days of Noah. Those who entered the ark in Noah's day were saved, and those who refused to enter the ark were left outside. But what were they left for? For another chance? No, obviously they were left to be destroyed by the Flood. So, says Jesus, will it be when He comes at the end of the world. One will be taken to heaven with Jesus, and the other will be left for destruction. Verse 51 makes clear what will happen to those who are left: "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Read Luke 17:26-37 for Luke's parallel account of these same words of Jesus. In verse 36, this statement is made: "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left." Now notice verse 37 and the question the disciples asked: "And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord?" They wanted to know where those who didn't go to heaven were going to be left. Notice Jesus' clear answer: "And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together."

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Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

EAGLES ARE FEASTING ON SOMEONE!

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Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

EAGLES ARE FEASTING ON SOMEONE!

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What if you find yourself very old and the rapture has never happened?

You may live the life you wish, but it saddens my heart if anyone looses out on the beauty of life because of an untrue belief.


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No. Such a god doesn' t deserve to be followed or worshipped.


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Re: Would the Rapture change you?

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If suddenly you where left behind when God decides to rapture his people, would you change your ways and believe? Or would you subject yourselves to the lies of the Anti-Christ and ignore the prophecy fulfilled.

Even if you dont believe in God or the Bible just answer.
First there are many other theories in regards to people disappearing also. So who's to say which is true if indeed all these people were suddenly gone. Also, the Anti Christ is also called a spirit or believe and the beast is also thought of as a system, not actual people. So, there are many interpretations of this also....

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No. Such a god doesn' t deserve to be followed or worshipped.


Agreed. A God THAT spiteful and evil enough to torture those who simply didn't follow his confusing doctrines or believe him is not worthy of worship or reverance.


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Reminds me of the song "End the Rapture" by Avenged Sevenfold. Bitchin


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If suddenly disappeared though...Like WOW!...For whatever reason, it would be strange

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If suddenly you where left behind when God decides to rapture his people, would you change your ways and believe? Or would you subject yourselves to the lies of the Anti-Christ and ignore the prophecy fulfilled.

Even if you dont believe in God or the Bible just answer.

well if that actually happened I'd have proof of god so I would obviously believe there is a god. but my own moral system would still be the same.


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Btw, I was just trying to make you all think hypothetically. I dont need all this "I dont like God" crap. Anyways, thanks Bardock for the one good answer.

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The rapture is an eschatological (end times) event whereupon the return of Christ the true believers who are "alive and remain shall be caught up together with them [those who already died as Christians] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air..." (1 Thess. 4:17). This is the time of the resurrection where the Christian receives his resurrected body. First to receive their new bodies are those who have died as Christians, and then "those who are alive and remain."
There is much debate over the time of the rapture. Does it occur at the beginning, in the middle, or at the end of the tribulation period?

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Id be glad to be rid of god. No more bug piece of crap in da sky!!


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Id be glad to be rid of god. No more bug piece of crap in da sky!!



laughing You have found a silver lining my friend. laughing


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Id be glad to be rid of god. No more bug piece of crap in da sky!!
laughing out loud

My gods not like that.. confused ......I got a nice god...

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