Wolverine has one hour to rest between each battle. Who stops him?
1) Toad
2) Mystique in crowded area
3) Punisher w/2 machine guns and 2 grenades
4) Agent X w/6 handguns and 2 grenades
5) Deathstroke w/energy sword & a hand machine gun
6) Bannerless Hulk (the one that fought Silver Surfer)
If Wolverine is at the peak strength levels he has been at before; I.E. Fighting Galidator for six days straight, defeating Namor, cutting Thanos, being hit by a nuclear missle at point blank and walking away from it alive, Taking hits from the Hulk, Thing, Collosus, etc. Then I think Wolverine could clear this Gauntlet.
Not at all. I have gone over it many times not once has anyone said anything to even make me consider that DS would have a shot. They best people can do is bring bull shit feats that make no sense like Slade tagging Flash and the whole Idenity Crisis 3 thing... which are massively out numberedby feats like him getting beat to death by Vandle Savage, knocked out by a Dinosaurs tail, dropped by Deadshot (twice), stalemated (at the very least) by Bronze Tiger, Beaten twice by Nightwing, Beaten by Batman, Beaten by Eddie Friers and Stalemated by Azrael. Maybe if his healing factor was anywhere close to being in the same league as Wolverine's he'd have a shot but with out prep it's a hopeless battle.
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Amazing what a simple mutant with claws and a healing factor has been made out to be!
Actually it is quite sad .....all the feats listed above show why Wolverine has more CIS/PIS than Doom/Batman/Slade/Etc COMBINED.
Let's dissect this:
-Fighting Gladiator for 6 days. Now, Ive to admit this is the first I'm hearing of this, but if it is true then that is absolute hogwash. Gladiator's strength levels ebb and flow (from planet mover to mere brick), but Wolverine should be a flea to him.
- 'Defeating' Namor .....should be ridiculous to all but the most rabid Wolvie fanboys.
- Cutting Thanos .....no need to comment on this. Suffice it to say that it is ludicrous.
- Being nuked point blank. Wolverine has a healing factor ....he is NOT invulnerable. A nuke, at such a range, should have vaporised everything BUT his Adamantium skeleton. Thus how could he have walked away from that? I can see how a character like Lobo can come back, since he is able to regenerate from an atom, but Wolverine. Reminds me of the whole 'Wolverine survived inside the sun' bunch of spiel a certain Wolverine 'fan' used to spout forth some months back!
- Taking hits from the Hulk/Colossus/et al. More ridiculous PIS/CIS. Why? Well, in car accidents one of the more common injuries is a concussion. This is particularly when the jarring force of the impact makes the brain impact onto the sides of the inside of the skull. A punch from any of those super-bricks may not break his skeleton, but it would do significant damage to his internal organs by bruising them. The sheer impact should provide sufficient g-forces to partially liquefy some of them, and while Wolverine may not necessarily die he should be immediately be taken out of the fight.
However I guess if he can walk out of a nuke strike point blank ( ) then matters like the above do not matter for Wolverine.
It is actually disgusting!
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This is akin to me saying: The Hulk can't lift 100 tons. Gamma radiation doesn't turn you into the Hulk it kills you as such the simple fact that Banner is the Hulk is pure PIS. He should be dead, so all of the Hulks feats don't count.
It's a comic, don't try to rationalize it with real world physics. Wolverine's healing factor heals from the damage he takes so fast it's almost instantaneous, the narratives in his fights with bricks have even stated on more then one occasion that his organs are liquefied by the force of the blows he receives from high end bricks. It's just the way it is.
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Agreed. There is no logical way Wolverine should last 5 seconds against this Superman knock-off without massive PIS or CIS.
While I would not dismiss a possible Wolverine victory out of hand, I do not think we have seen a fight where both fight up to their top potential. And considering some of Namor's top-end feats, Wolverine would face quite a challenge.
Yes, yes it is.
Wolverine never survived a direct hit from a nuclear bomb (at least in my opinion). What he survived a hit from seemed to be little more than a rather mild explosive device, but, whatever it was called or claimed to be, it demonstrated none of the destructive capacity that even a small nuclear device is capable of. To put it another way, Wolverine surviving an explosion that isn't even strong enough to damage his pants is not a terribly impressive feat.
but you see pants, boots, and belt all intact. His skin is undamaged as is his hair and there is intact debris only feet away. (please log in to view the image)
Once again I agree. When I played football in high school, I had a teammate who suffered a concussion just from getting a relatively light hit to the head and was knocked out for some time. A blow from any high-end super strong character would cause massive brain damage. Why this fact is ignored by writers is lost on me.
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That wouldn't make a difference. The brain floats within the skull surrounded by fluid, one of the functions of which is to cushion the brain from light bounces of everyday movement. However, the fluid may not be able to absorb the force of a sudden hard blow or a quick stop. I.e. your head stops but your brain continues moving forward until it is stopped by crashing into your skull thus causing significant brain trauma. Having a metal bonded to your skull would not be particularly helpful.
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You mean when Gladiator ripped one of Logan's claws off? This happened in an alternate reality story and is not canon. And is just as ridiculous as Wolverine stabbing Silver Surfer through the chest.
If you want to see just what would happen if Logan tried to fight Gladiator, have a look at New X-Men #124.
The might count if they were anywhere near with in peramiters of his abilities to pull off but 9 times out of 10 Slade is at best slightly above peak human in speed. He has been worked over by Nightwing so hard and fast he couldn't even react. The odd example of Slade hitting the Flash (a character that reacts at speeds far exciting c) is in the same boat as Wolverine surving a nuke head on (all though expontially worse).
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