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DE Sidious and DN Luke vs Exar Kun and Ludo Kressh

Who wins?


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Again, any thread with DE Sidious is dependant on the time he needs to throw around a force storm. Luke can hold off Kun nicely for Sidious to create one. However you have an Ancient Sith in this thread, so Luke and Sidious are ****ed.


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And just what makes Ludo so good?


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He's an ancient sith who is most likely on par with Sadow. That alone puts him above everybody that came after him.


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Issues would include Ludo is an oversensitive, ineffective moron. As it's DN Luke, this is suddenly in favor of L and S's tag team...and after three seconds of listening to Kressh whine, Kun is likely to switch teams.


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Yea but Ludo is Kun's superior.. So realistically, no matter how powerful Luke's team is, you have 2 DLOTS, and one of them is an ancient sith... So I call this a curbstomp.


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Kun would put Ludo over his knee and spank him. And DN Luke is probably the strongest guy here.


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lol kun and Ludo won't just win jsut because Ludo is a ancient Sith....Luke could defeat Exar before Sidious gets his ass whooped Luke comes and help "GANGED" There is alot more I have to say but I just don't want to waste time typing paragraphs lol

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Wrong Lightsnake.
Ludo Kressh
DN Luke/Exar Kun
DE Sidious

That's the order. Not to mention we have no idea what insane powers Ludo has, but we do know he had amulets all over him, which isn't a good thing for Luke's team.

And even if Luke beats Exar Kun, Ludo Kressh would have destroyed Sidious a lot quicker. In either case Ludo Kressh> everybody in this fight, so if it comes down to a 1 on 1 fight, he'll be the last one standing.


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Ludo takes Luke, Exar takes Sidious. Ludo was the third most powerful Sith out of an entire civilization of them that consisted of billions of force users.


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Eh I'd say 4th Glentract, and I don't know where you get "billions of force users".
It would be
Ragnos
Simus
Sadow
Kressh
I guess maybe he's on par with Sadow, that would make him #3.. Either way, the ancient sith pwn all


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There's one tiny issue: Ludo is an idiot and the weakest person here. And billions? One blast of Morichro, a bit of pressure applied to Ludo's brain, a tag team quey'tek, among anything else Sidious and Luke can use...Ludo is one dead Sith and just because he's an Ancient Sith doesn't change that


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Ludo isn't the weakest lightsnake, where are you getting your information from? Ludo is the strongest one here, followed by Luke/Kun.. And yes, because he IS an ancient sith, means he is MORE powerful than everybody.. The ancient sith were the most powerful of the most powerful.


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Let's see, there is an ENTIRE civilization of force users. Seeing as one planet can hold more then 6 billion people and that Sith have many planets, billions of force users seems like a good number.

And incase you didn't know, I was referring to people in Ludo's TIME. While Ludo was around, Simus was a head in a jar, who was able to be killed by a single blaster bolt when he saw it coming. Small fry Tott could have protected himself from it. Second, prove to me that Simus was more powerful the Ludo, even in his full body. Whose to say that if Ragnos hadn't de-throned Simus, Ludo wouldn't have?


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Right, and because Vodo was a powerful Jedi, al Krenka-whateverthehelltheyare- are powerful...the majority of the Sith species were either warriors or slaves. This IS the same Ludo who died cringing in fear, trying to order his MORTAL ENEMY to call off a ship slamming into his own? Same Ludo who served as nothing but a stupid whipping boy throughout the entire comic?

Ludo's collapsed a statue and powered up a sword...his forces were defeated by Sadow's devastated fleet...


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Let's see, there is an ENTIRE civilization of force users. Seeing as one planet can hold more then 6 billion people and that Sith have many planets, billions of force users seems like a good number.

And incase you didn't know, I was referring to people in Ludo's TIME. While Ludo was around, Simus was a head in a jar, who was able to be killed by a single blaster bolt when he saw it coming. Small fry Tott could have protected himself from it. Second, prove to me that Simus was more powerful the Ludo, even in his full body. Whose to say that if Ragnos hadn't de-throned Simus, Ludo wouldn't have?

For the simple fact that Simus was described as the greatest sith alchemist in his era, and the master of Naga Sadow. And the fact that he DID fight with Ragnos for title of DLOTS, and Kressh would never dream of it. Furthermore, where do you get your numbers from? How do you know 1 of their planets can hold 6 billion people. And how do you know that most of the "citizens" are force users? I think you're far off, because all of the sith worlds consisted of a few Sith Lords, and thousands, or millions of Massassi slaves, so no, your numbers aren't correct.


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Let's see, there is an ENTIRE civilization of force users. Seeing as one planet can hold more then 6 billion people and that Sith have many planets, billions of force users seems like a good number.

And incase you didn't know, I was referring to people in Ludo's TIME. While Ludo was around, Simus was a head in a jar, who was able to be killed by a single blaster bolt when he saw it coming. Small fry Tott could have protected himself from it. Second, prove to me that Simus was more powerful the Ludo, even in his full body. Whose to say that if Ragnos hadn't de-throned Simus, Ludo wouldn't have?


Excepting that the average Sith is a slave and the operative term is powerful, considering there were...ten or twenty lords or so. The average Sith Lord may be strong, but do we know a thing about the average Sith?

And Simus was known more for his wisdom and 'nobility'

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For the simple fact that Simus was described as the greatest sith alchemist in his era, and the master of Naga Sadow. And the fact that he DID fight with Ragnos for title of DLOTS, and Kressh would never dream of it. Furthermore, where do you get your numbers from? How do you know 1 of their planets can hold 6 billion people. And how do you know that most of the "citizens" are force users? I think you're far off, because all of the sith worlds consisted of a few Sith Lords, and thousands, or millions of Massassi slaves, so no, your numbers aren't correct.


Master? His teacher, not master. And once more:
How old were Kressh and Sadow when Simus got bested?
Where is Simus called the greatest alchemist?

And we don't know how populated the Sith worlds were...the Vong conquest killed only...365 Tril?

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For the simple fact that Simus was described as the greatest sith alchemist in his era, and the master of Naga Sadow. And the fact that he DID fight with Ragnos for title of DLOTS, and Kressh would never dream of it. Furthermore, where do you get your numbers from? How do you know 1 of their planets can hold 6 billion people. And how do you know that most of the "citizens" are force users? I think you're far off, because all of the sith worlds consisted of a few Sith Lords, and thousands, or millions of Massassi slaves, so no, your numbers aren't correct.


I got to go for now, but for my numbers, try taking a look at Star Wars Insider.

Master doesn't always mean more powerful. Luke was better then his Master Obi-wan, once he was given some time. And notice Simus was the greatest Alchemist when he was a full body. When he was a head, as in Ludo's time, he was WEAK comparitively.


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And as you know, populations grow expoentially over a long period of time, which was 5,000+ years in this case. And fine, you want to be technical, Simus was Sadow's master.. But I do recall 100% however, that Simus was called the greatest Alchemist of his time.


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