Firelord's actually the 3rd most powerful only below Morg and Surfer. He beats John 5.5/10, Guy 5.5/10, and Kilowog 5.5/10, Kyle breaks even (5/10), and loses to Hal 6/10.
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This is KMC dude. Where superman's Rediculous DC wanking of him is for shit. If Triumph could kill Superman if he wanted, certainly a seasoned GL could do it. At any rate, Someone actually had the nerve of giving kyle 5/10 against Firelord. What in the ****.
well since he can break them, that leaves John at a disadvantage imo..
Superman's jobber aura has nothing to do with this fight, Stewart is not a uber GL to begin with.
Agains Kyle or Hal supes goes down. Against John, Guy supes takes it.
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The point was John has an actual win to his credit. and as such He is perfectly able to beat firelord, who isn't in superman's league when it comes to power. i dare say Effigy on a good day can hang with Firelord.
As batdude said, Superman has a win over john, so wats ur point?
In every heads up battle between FL and Surfer, FireLord always have him a run for his money imo.. Fire Lord is certainly capable of beating a 2nd tier GL.
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You act as if a "2nd" tier GL is something to laugh at. considering there are Thousdands of them and I can only think of one or two "2nd Tier" GL's I'd say they are pretty powerful. Considering HAL and Kyle and Kilowog's feats far out strip Even 1st tier heralds. So a 2nd tier GL should be able to beat a third tier herald any day.
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Hal has so many I can't even begin. Kilowog absorbs the souls of his world. Kyle holds a big bang, creates an actual JLA to beat Amazo 2000, Gives his constructs independant thought as well as access to the speed force to name a few. Subconciously creates Oblivion ect.