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Just How Tuff is The Classic Juggernaut
This is a stress test for Juggs.
He cannot figh back.
His shield is active.
He must withstand the power of each of these beings.
It's a guantlet of sorts.
When does he fall?
1. Millions IMP's from flash
2. Sentry
3. Hal Jordan can make any contraption he can think of to crack Juggs
4. Reed Richards trying to invent something to crack Juggs
5. All Star Superman a million Punches
6. Thor's God blast with the power gem
7. Darksied and Thanos's power combined
8. Galactus
9. WW and the God wave
10. The Dark Phoenix Force
11. Mr. Myx
12. The Molecule Man
These combatants cannot use Molecular Dispersion. They must use force powers only.
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Some telepathy exerts physically, e.g. Aquaman's. Juggernaut's explicit weakness is telepathy, but I don't think they've ever specified it had to be nonphysical.
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I don't know if I would count telepathy. We all know Juggs is weak to that. But the only reason he is weak to that is cuz it was professor x's main power. He has a plot device weakness, kinda like green lanter's yellow in the days of old. I'm trying to figure out just how much force it takes to crack Classic Juggs. Cuz it seems like people think he's infinitely unhurtable. And I haven't seen anyone infinitely unhurtable. Even the beyonder was able to kill himself. I think.
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This doesn't make sense to me. Thor's Godforce is more powerful than the power Cytorak gave jugs. Yet he didn't get hurt by it. The God force has pushed back Galactus and hurt a celestial.
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I think Juggs makes it to All star Superman and maybe last from millions of those lvl punches. But Thor's God blast powered by the Powergem def will put him down for good.
I don't think he's that powerful, because he was terrified of Onslaught. When Onslaught confronted him, he picked Juggs up and ripped the gem of Cytorrak out of him like nothing. I doubt Onslaught is more powerful than Cytorrak himself, though.
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Onslaught is more powerful than Cytorrak. Onslaught had the power of magneto and prof x which is enough. when you add the reality creating power of franklin richards, and the pheonix force like power of xman, onslaught is really no joke.
4 is all about plot device what ifs and I don't want to go into that.
Basically the Writers can choose how much ever power Cyttorak is giving him at the time to do whatever uber feat he needs and by the way Cyttorak is no joke. I don't know the comic but I do know Glacatus has passed by Cyttorak once and didn't want to tango. Dr. Strange has invoked Cyttorak's power to help contain Galactus in the Crimson Bans.
All in all though Cyttorak isn't as strong as Glacatus but he isdefently higher than a Skyfather if you ask me.
And once you get to Skyfather level physical force means almost nothing unless you have some mystical or essential force of the cosmos backing it up.
So he should get by AL Supes if you ask me. From there on he really just is a draw up of how much power he needs to get by the Gem but he isn't making it past Galactus and if it is a well written Darkseid he shouldn't make it past him either.
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