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Superman vs Marvel Odin (with a difference)

This is entirely Hand to hand, no Heat vision or energy blasts are allowed to be used, only super speed, durability, flight and strength. This is to the death and takes place on a Earth supplied with yellow sunlight. Lets say superman has been sun-dipped for an entire year before hand, and has successfully removed his mental blocks.

Before bulldozing in, about Odins Limitless powers, read this:

We find from this crossover, (which occurred during the Superman Blue era), that all D.C. Super powers (Especially the ones that seemingly disobey the laws of physics, Flight, heat vison etc) are derived from the God Wave.

http://www.geocities.com/mbrown123/...dc_genesis.html

This would also explain this taken from the Wiki installment for Superman:

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Recently, some authors have implied that Superman's powers can reach nearly unlimited levels, based on solar energy absorption and withdrawal of mental blocks. In Our Worlds at War, Superman dives into the sun to gain sufficient energy to overpower Brainiac 13, who was imbued with the Imperiex Force. In Superman/Batman, when Kara Zor-El claims to be more powerful than Superman, he tells her that he put personal mental blocks on his powers as he grew up to keep from losing control and causing irreparable damage, blocks that Supergirl does not have. While Supergirl can appear to be stronger, Superman just has greater self-control.

In an interview with Joe Casey on Alvaro's ComicBoards, he states that Superman can re-arrange the Solar System and tear a star apart. "I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has no limits whatsoever," writes Casey. Unencumbered by mental blocks, "Superman is unbeatable."

It is implied in the One Year Later Superman story that Superman exerts an element of subconscious control over his powers; to be Superman truly, it appears that Clark Kent must, on some level, want to be Superman. This is evidenced by the one-year period following the Infinite Crisis during which he lives happily as the powerless Clark Kent, with no desire to return to his former lifestyle. This lasts until Intergang operatives attack him and his powers return as his life is imperiled. After this, his other skills return (including flight and super-speed).[/B]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superm...s_and_abilities


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Only strenght and fighting skills? Then Superman would pawn Odin.


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Re: Superman vs Marvel Odin (with a difference)

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Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
This is entirely Hand to hand, no Heat vision or energy blasts are allowed to be used, only super speed, durability, flight and strength. This is to the death and takes place on a Earth supplied with yellow sunlight. Lets say superman has been sun-dipped for an entire year before hand, and has successfully removed his mental blocks.

Before bulldozing in, about Odins Limitless powers, read this:

We find from this crossover, (which occurred during the Superman Blue era), that all D.C. Super powers (Especially the ones that seemingly disobey the laws of physics, Flight, heat vison etc) are derived from the God Wave.

http://www.geocities.com/mbrown123/...dc_genesis.html

This would also explain this taken from the Wiki installment for Superman:

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Recently, some authors have implied that Superman's powers can reach nearly unlimited levels, based on solar energy absorption and withdrawal of mental blocks. In Our Worlds at War, Superman dives into the sun to gain sufficient energy to overpower Brainiac 13, who was imbued with the Imperiex Force. In Superman/Batman, when Kara Zor-El claims to be more powerful than Superman, he tells her that he put personal mental blocks on his powers as he grew up to keep from losing control and causing irreparable damage, blocks that Supergirl does not have. While Supergirl can appear to be stronger, Superman just has greater self-control.

In an interview with Joe Casey on Alvaro's ComicBoards, he states that Superman can re-arrange the Solar System and tear a star apart. "I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has no limits whatsoever," writes Casey. Unencumbered by mental blocks, "Superman is unbeatable."

It is implied in the One Year Later Superman story that Superman exerts an element of subconscious control over his powers; to be Superman truly, it appears that Clark Kent must, on some level, want to be Superman. This is evidenced by the one-year period following the Infinite Crisis during which he lives happily as the powerless Clark Kent, with no desire to return to his former lifestyle. This lasts until Intergang operatives attack him and his powers return as his life is imperiled. After this, his other skills return (including flight and super-speed).




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superm...s_and_abilities [/B]


Then of course we have the fact ODIN only existed after Thor 300 because he was given life by the other panteons in Thor 301. I think this makes him a weak Skyfather as he exists on borrowed energy.

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Only strenght and fighting skills? Then Superman would pawn Odin.


I agree with you.


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Then of course we have the fact ODIN only existed after Thor 300 because he was given life by the other panteons in Thor 301. I think this makes him a weak Skyfather as he exists on borrowed energy.


Sorry babes, what you talking about ?


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Sorry babes, what you talking about ?


Odin and all of Asgard were destroyed, killed by Arishem in Thor 300. Thor had to go round begging the other Gods to give him a portion of there power to bring back Odin. Most respected Odin and Asgards sacrifice but one of the Hindu gods did not. He and Thor fight eventually he hands the portion over. The issue garnered a lot of complaints as many Hindus read comics. It was more racist than Hudlin.


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Re: Superman vs Marvel Odin (with a difference)

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Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
This is entirely Hand to hand, no Heat vision or energy blasts are allowed to be used, only super speed, durability, flight and strength. This is to the death and takes place on a Earth supplied with yellow sunlight. Lets say superman has been sun-dipped for an entire year before hand, and has successfully removed his mental blocks.

Before bulldozing in, about Odins Limitless powers, read this:

We find from this crossover, (which occurred during the Superman Blue era), that all D.C. Super powers (Especially the ones that seemingly disobey the laws of physics, Flight, heat vison etc) are derived from the God Wave.

http://www.geocities.com/mbrown123/...dc_genesis.html

This would also explain this taken from the Wiki installment for Superman:

quote: (post)
Recently, some authors have implied that Superman's powers can reach nearly unlimited levels, based on solar energy absorption and withdrawal of mental blocks. In Our Worlds at War, Superman dives into the sun to gain sufficient energy to overpower Brainiac 13, who was imbued with the Imperiex Force. In Superman/Batman, when Kara Zor-El claims to be more powerful than Superman, he tells her that he put personal mental blocks on his powers as he grew up to keep from losing control and causing irreparable damage, blocks that Supergirl does not have. While Supergirl can appear to be stronger, Superman just has greater self-control.

In an interview with Joe Casey on Alvaro's ComicBoards, he states that Superman can re-arrange the Solar System and tear a star apart. "I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has no limits whatsoever," writes Casey. Unencumbered by mental blocks, "Superman is unbeatable."

It is implied in the One Year Later Superman story that Superman exerts an element of subconscious control over his powers; to be Superman truly, it appears that Clark Kent must, on some level, want to be Superman. This is evidenced by the one-year period following the Infinite Crisis during which he lives happily as the powerless Clark Kent, with no desire to return to his former lifestyle. This lasts until Intergang operatives attack him and his powers return as his life is imperiled. After this, his other skills return (including flight and super-speed).




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superm...s_and_abilities [/B]


odin old, supes ftw smokin'

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this is a lame attemempt to give superman a win against odin. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Still, superman will not be able to kill odin becuase of Odin vast amount of duribility. Unless Superman is delivering galaxies destorying punches he's not hurting Odin, let alone kill him imo.

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Care to show us where was it stated that Odin could only be taken down by Galaxy wreacking punches?


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The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.
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this is a lame attemempt to give superman a win against odin. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Still, superman will not be able to kill odin becuase of Odin vast amount of duribility. Unless Superman is delivering galaxies destorying punches he's not hurting Odin, let alone kill him imo.


Odin has died a number of times. Read Thor Vol 1 number 300 for just one of his many beatings.


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So I assume we should ignore the fact that Odin is dripping in magic !

A few punches should technically kill Kal-el.


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Odin has died a number of times. Read Thor Vol 1 number 300 for just one of his many beatings.


It takes a being on the scale of Surtur to kill Odin. Superman isn't that high up.
Still, if Odin is limited to strength and h2h, he loses to a full-powered Superman.
Are the Supes fans happy now? roll eyes (sarcastic)


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So I assume we should ignore the fact that Odin is dripping in magic !

A few punches should technically kill Kal-el.


Not really, Thor also is dripping in the same magic and fist to fist something else happened.


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It takes a being on the scale of Surtur to kill Odin. Superman isn't that high up.
Still, if Odin is limited to strength and h2h, he loses to a full-powered Superman.
Are the Supes fans happy now? roll eyes (sarcastic)


What feats has Sutur done to suggest that hes is anywhere near the physical prowess of a Sun Destroying Superman, with an inexhaustible amount of energy. Especially considering this is a physical fight. I remember Odin being Physically bested by the likes of Mangog, who certainly do not have Full Potential Superman strength, or are yet to show it.


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So I assume we should ignore the fact that Odin is dripping in magic !

A few punches should technically kill Kal-el.

Technically my ass. We are not talking about pre-crisis Superman here.
Superman has been stabbed with a magical sword through the chest and he kept fighting like nothing.


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What is evil?--Whatever springs from weakness.
What is happiness?--The feeling that power increases--that resistance is overcome.
Not contentment, but more power; not peace at any price, but war; not virtue, but efficiency (virtue in the Renaissance sense, virtu, virtue free of moral acid).
The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.
What is more harmful than any vice?--Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak--Christianity...

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Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Recently, some authors have implied that Superman's powers can reach nearly unlimited levels, based on solar energy absorption and withdrawal of mental blocks. In Our Worlds at War, Superman dives into the sun to gain sufficient energy to overpower Brainiac 13, who was imbued with the Imperiex Force. In Superman/Batman, when Kara Zor-El claims to be more powerful than Superman, he tells her that he put personal mental blocks on his powers as he grew up to keep from losing control and causing irreparable damage, blocks that Supergirl does not have. While Supergirl can appear to be stronger, Superman just has greater self-control.

In an interview with Joe Casey on Alvaro's ComicBoards, he states that Superman can re-arrange the Solar System and tear a star apart. "I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has no limits whatsoever," writes Casey. Unencumbered by mental blocks, "Superman is unbeatable."

It is implied in the One Year Later Superman story that Superman exerts an element of subconscious control over his powers; to be Superman truly, it appears that Clark Kent must, on some level, want to be Superman. This is evidenced by the one-year period following the Infinite Crisis during which he lives happily as the powerless Clark Kent, with no desire to return to his former lifestyle. This lasts until Intergang operatives attack him and his powers return as his life is imperiled. After this, his other skills return (including flight and super-speed).



I see were also ignoring the fact that any Joe Schmo can edit wikipedia

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Not really, Thor also is dripping in the same magic and fist to fist something else happened.


LOL . Marvel versus DC (all and any forms) are bullshit. I could rant on about the why's and hows but so many people have done it that it's pointless.


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Technically my ass. We are not talking about pre-crisis Superman here.
Superman has been stabbed with a magical sword through the chest and he kept fighting like nothing.


Which is bullshit , his Bio-aura is bi-passed by magic , ANYONE stabbed through the chest with a sword usually dies unless it's in a non-fatal area.


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I see were also ignoring the fact that any Joe Schmo can edit wikipedia



LOL . Marvel versus DC (all and any forms) are bullshit. I could rant on about the why's and hows but so many people have done it that it's pointless.


Its a direct quote taken from Joe Casey, and is therefore likely to be accurate.


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ANYONE stabbed through the chest with a sword usually dies unless it's in a non-fatal area.
Unless that person is a kryptoian under a yellow sun! Superman's powers are driven by force of will. If He wills himself into resisting magic he can do it.


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What is more harmful than any vice?--Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak--Christianity...

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this is a lame attemempt to give superman a win against odin. roll eyes (sarcastic)
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Does it make you angry, that I've created an interesting confrontation that doesn't involve Infinity vs Omnipotent ?


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Care to show us where was it stated that Odin could only be taken down by Galaxy wreacking punches?

here is an emample od Odin durability
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Odin vs Forsung

This battle spanned across the entire universe in moments, and was shown to have created new suns, and knocked over planets like ant hills. Odin came out the victor without any dame whatsoever.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...nvsForsung1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...nvsForsung2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...nvsForsung3.jpg


Also Odin battle with Infinity, Odin was taking shots that destoryed numerous galaxies, (Inifinty is a aspect of odin, the being only had a fraction of odins power)

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