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Base strength levels of Class 100 Characters

Hey Digi, can you leave this open even though it's not a versus thread per say, it is very relevant to versus debates.

The following characters are all class 100, but their strength levels can actually differ by huge amounts. I've noticed in versus threads that people make a big deal about small strength differences (i.e. Spiderman has big advantage because he's a class 15 while Captain America lifts many tons less....yet we don't make a big deal when one class 100 lifts 1,000,000,000 tons while the other class 100 lifts 100 tons)

Can we get a consensus on the BASE level strength of the following characters? Just give a estimate of what you think is the base level strength (based on average showings, not a few high feats or a few low feats)

Superman

Thor

Hulk

Iron Man

Colossus


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Just to explain why I made this post

I'm just astounded by how often one class 100 (ie Hulk - base level of at least 1,000,000 tons) who is 10,000x stronger than another class 100 (ie Colossus - base level of about 100 tons) would have a tough time ending the fight in less than a second

Imagine Spiderman fighting someone he was stronger than by 10,000x (meaning the guy could lift only 4 POUNDS!!!!) nobody would think that guy would have a chance...yet when a class 100 is 10,000x stronger than another class 100, nobody bats an eye.

Why is that?

In effect, Hulk should beat Colossus with the same ease that Spiderman would have against a man who could lift max 4 friggin pounds!!!! Meaning Hulk should be able to flick Colossus with his pinky.


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Cl in what, strength?

Neither IM and/or Colossus fit in that level.

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And he can finger flick Colossus when he is mad.
Clam hulk its about the same..


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Superman - Unknown , possibly around 25,000 tons as he lifted a 5000 ton tanker easily. This can amped with a sun-dip or through rage

Thor - I'd say around 150 ton's maybe more

Hulk - 100 tons but rises reasonably quickly with rage

Iron Man - Class 80-90

Colossus - 120 tons.


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Superman - Unknown , possibly around 25,000 tons as he lifted a 5000 ton tanker easily. This can amped with a sun-dip or through rage

Thor - I'd say around 150 ton's maybe more

Hulk - 100 tons but rises reasonably quickly with rage

Iron Man - Class 80-90

Colossus - 120 tons.


So you're saying Superman is 100x stronger than Thor?

btw, Souja boy said THor lifted weight as much as planet earth...that would be over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons!!!


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I actually think that lots of class 100 people can extert themselves from the base level at least a bit. Adrealine, energy, rage, whatever would help them to grow in strenght.


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It's give or take with all those high level guys.
But I agree Superman is typically written as by far the most physically overbearing character.


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Re: Base strength levels of Class 100 Characters

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Originally posted by masterbruce
Hey Digi, can you leave this open even though it's not a versus thread per say, it is very relevant to versus debates.

The following characters are all class 100, but their strength levels can actually differ by huge amounts. I've noticed in versus threads that people make a big deal about small strength differences (i.e. Spiderman has big advantage because he's a class 15 while Captain America lifts many tons less....yet we don't make a big deal when one class 100 lifts 1,000,000,000 tons while the other class 100 lifts 100 tons)

Can we get a consensus on the BASE level strength of the following characters? Just give a estimate of what you think is the base level strength (based on average showings, not a few high feats or a few low feats)

Superman

Thor

Hulk

Iron Man

Colossus


Superman

Thor=Belt of Strength

Hulk=There is no end to his infinite rage

Iron Man

Colossus


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Originally posted by masterbruce
So you're saying Superman is 100x stronger than Thor?

btw, Souja boy said THor lifted weight as much as planet earth...that would be over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons!!!


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what would you say is Thor's base level strength, and also Hulks.


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Thor lifted Jormungadr (midgard serpent) which probably weighed untold millions of tons.

Then he has trouble with Juggernaut - gotta love inconsistencies in comics


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Thor lifted Jormungadr (midgard serpent) which probably weighed untold millions of tons.

Then he has trouble with Juggernaut - gotta love inconsistencies in comics


no not untold millions

more like untold quintillions of tons

but then Thor regularly has trouble with guys who are 1/100,000,000,000,000,000,000th the strength he is


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Thor lifted Jormungadr (midgard serpent) which probably weighed untold millions of tons.

Then he has trouble with Juggernaut - gotta love inconsistencies in comics

juggy has enancements from a god that is more powerful than Odin. how is that inconsistent?

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no not untold millions

more like untold quintillions of tons

but then Thor regularly has trouble with guys who are 1/100,000,000,000,000,000,000th the strength he is

its called comics, if thor was written to his stongest all the time, wouldent the comic be boring?

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juggy has enancements from a god that is more powerful than Odin. how is that inconsistent?


its inconsistent because Juggernaut has been consistently shown to have strength level of 100 tons (at max 200 tons)

Thor, if you accept his feats, can be said to have base level strength of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons

if you accept the two above facts, then it is quite inconsistent as Thor would have more power in his pinky than Juggernaut in his entire body


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its called comics, if thor was written to his stongest all the time, wouldent the comic be boring?


right, so you agree it is wildly inconsistent to make a guy who lifts over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons one day struggle against a guy who lifts at max 1000 tons the next day

If Spiderman one day had trouble fighting a 5 yr old, wouldn't you be outraged at the inconsistency?


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right, so you agree it is wildly inconsistent to make a guy who lifts over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons one day struggle against a guy who lifts at max 1000 tons the next day

If Spiderman one day had trouble fighting a 5 yr old, wouldn't you be outraged at the inconsistency?
its just like hulk who struggles against spidey than is strong enough to beat onslaught.

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Base strength is a plot device. Then again, the lack of a true base strength is also a plot device. All that really matter is that one character is stronger than another. Then again, who cares.

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Don't forget, the Midgar Serpent wights as much as the world, but then again, when the Midgar Serpent was "invented" the World was much smaller, or the people though it is much smaller, and it was flat wink. Anyway, Thor is Class 100 IIRC from the Handbooks and RPG books, while Hulk starts at Class 100 and reaches his max enraged Str at Class 500, or Shift Z.


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