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LatinoStallion
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Worried Are you open to the possibility that you may be wrong ?

Ofcourse, personally, this thread is meant to address Christians and Muslims, however, for the sake of being fair, I want to ask everyone this....


Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, alike (and whatever other religion you identify with)




Are you at ALL open to the possibility that you can be wrong ? That your beleifs/conclusions could be false ?

If so, why ?



If not, why not ?


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Right or wrong in what way?


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Right or wrong in what way?



That your beleifs could be incorrect or non factual or untruthful.



That your beleifs about creation, about life, about morality, about what is truth could be just your perception of reality, and not reality itself.


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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That your beleifs could be incorrect or non factual or untruthful.



That your beleifs about creation, about life, about morality, about what is truth could be just your perception of reality, and not reality itself.


What does it matter, as long as it works?

If it makes you happy and fulfilled, why would some unquantifiable truth be important?


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What does it matter, as long as it works?

If it makes you happy and fulfilled, why would some unquantifiable truth be important?



It doesn't matter....



But i think the it is most wise to realize you may not be correct.....not for the sake of self judgement, just for the lack of arrogance


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It doesn't matter....



But i think the it is most wise to realize you may not be correct.....not for the sake of self judgement, just for the lack of arrogance


Well, we should not be arrogant, and understand that every person has their own path. My path my not be right for you, but it is right for me. If I am living a path that is wrong for me, only I can know that, and only I can change that.


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Of course I'm open that I'm wrong - that there is in fact a god, but untill I see proof, I'll stick with Atheism.

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Re: Are you open to the possibility that you may be wrong ?

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Are you at ALL open to the possibility that you can be wrong ? That your beleifs/conclusions could be false ?
Yes.
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why ?
If one is not open to the possibility that one is wrong, then if one is wrong, one cannot grasp the opportunity to improve oneself when evidence of such presents itself.


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You guys are smartie pants


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You guys are smartie pants


Most of the people you want to answer this thread are gone. cool


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Most of the people you want to answer this thread are gone. cool
I doubt most of them would answer it anyway, or else they'd respond that they couldn't be wrong with reference-quote-Biblical assumption.


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I doubt most of them would answer it anyway, or else they'd respond that they couldn't be wrong with reference-quote-Biblical assumption.



Therefore, what is there it talk about in this thread?


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Re: Are you open to the possibility that you may be wrong ?

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ofcourse, personally, this thread is meant to address Christians and Muslims, however, for the sake of being fair, I want to ask everyone this....


Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, alike (and whatever other religion you identify with)




Are you at ALL open to the possibility that you can be wrong ? That your beleifs/conclusions could be false ?

If so, why ?



If not, why not ?


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Re: Are you open to the possibility that you may be wrong ?

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Are you at ALL open to the possibility that you can be wrong ? That your beleifs/conclusions could be false ?


Only if evidence can be provided that would convince me that I am wrong.

However at the same time I will admit that personal bias probably prevents me from accepting certain evidence.


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Re: Re: Are you open to the possibility that you may be wrong ?

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BLASPHEMY!!!
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Hmmmm. While slightly off topic you really have dropped your "A Christian person wants to know the devil's side" persona haven't you? Makes me wonder if you ever had it. Not that I would be implying you're a sock or anything.

As to the question - yes, I certainly am.

It is perfectly respectable, indeed admirable, to have conviction in ones stance, ones view. All the more so when they are able to argue it and defend it in a high standard fashion - that is a stance substantiated by more then simply blind faith.

However in my eyes it is just as courageous and noble to have an open mind. The moment a person says "I can't be wrong and as such nor can my beliefs" is the moment a person has shut down the ability to learn and grow in that particular field. To embrace ignorance. As essentially an Atheist I feel I have good reason to think of myself as such - but I enjoy a good debate, be it participating in or watching. This includes religion.

If I find out God/gods exist - good. I wouldn't turn a blind eye and pretend the other way because I have to much pride to admit a mistake -because baseless pride is just foolish pride, the pride of the unrepentantly and proudly ignorant (Marchello I think of you). I doubt it will happen, as it seems the quality of proof I ask for is unreasonable and apparently even unthinkable from various Gods, even if they do exist, but if they ever feel like putting themselves forward I will be more then happy to listen.


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1) I highly doubt Marcello would ever acknowledge this thread



2) Smiter is Christian/Orgasmist, but he doesn't think Atheists are "on the devil's side" He was just joking, you know how he is.


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I'm a bit of a Foucault fan - therefore I tend to support the view that truth is relative - relative to power, relative to society, relative to history... In my view, truth is a social construct, a mechanism to help you deal with and interpret reality.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ofcourse, personally, this thread is meant to address Christians and Muslims, however, for the sake of being fair, I want to ask everyone this....

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, alike (and whatever other religion you identify with)

Are you at ALL open to the possibility that you can be wrong ? That your beleifs/conclusions could be false ?

If so, why ?

If not, why not ?


Absolutely it could all be a crock of crap. People make mistakes, our perception of reality is limited. Dammit, lad, we're not God (well, not in the Obvious Unlimited Power way, anyway). smokin'


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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) I highly doubt Marcello would ever acknowledge this thread


Of course he wont, but it is still funny to think he might. Well, funny in a "oh the humanity" kind of way, because I can image the fire and brimstone of his CAPITALIZED fury.

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2) Smiter is Christian/Orgasmist, but he doesn't think Atheists are "on the devil's side" He was just joking, you know how he is.


Of course I do. Just musing that he seems more then a little familiar.


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