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Addressing an issue with Wolverine

I'd like to address an issue here in a previously closed thread comparing Spiderman and Wolverines speed.

What I would like to address? Two comments made by "capt it up".

I'd like to request that there'd be no swearing, insults or vulgar terms utilized in this thread. Just organized debating, please.


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Wolverine is superhuman. Are you slow? I don’t want to insult some one who is slow so I be glad if you answer that for me?


To answer your first question, I am not slow.

Now to address the rest of your text.

Wolverine is Superhuman?


Here is a detailed explanation from Marvel's official site to Spiderman's powers:

"Peter can cling to most surfaces, has superhuman strength and is roughly 15 times more agile than a regular human. He has been able to lift 15 tons under optimal conditions, but his current strength level after his rebirth has yet to be determined. The combination of his acrobatic leaps and web-slinging enables him to travel rapidly from place to place. His spider-sense provides an early warning detection system linked with his superhuman kinesthetics, enabling him the ability to evade most any injury, provided he doesn't cognitively override the autonomic reflexes. His powers have recently been enhanced after his transformation from the Queen to include a stronger psychic alignment with his environment, especially with other arachnids and insects. He can now create organic webs from his wrists, limited by his body's health and nutrition. Recent new abilities resulting from his rebirth after battling Morlun include night vision, increased sensory awareness via vibratory patterns transmitted on his web lines, and twin retractable stingers within his forearms. He can use the hairs on his body to detect subtle changes in the wind. His skin's adhesive ability, previously concentrated mainly on his palms and soles of his feet, is now more greatly present throughout his body including his face (previously used to prevent undesirable mask removal) and back."


Let's review Wolverine's profile.

"Wolverine is a mutant who possesses the ability to regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of his cellular structure at a rate far greater than that of an ordinary human. The speed at which this healing factor works varies in direct proportion with the severity of the damage Wolverine suffers. For example, he can fully recover from an ordinary gunshot wound in a non-vital area of his body within minutes, but it took him almost two months to fully recover from injuries sustained in a duel with Lord Shingen, which included one from a sword that went all the way through his trunk.

Wolverine’s natural healing also affords him virtual immunity to poisons and most drugs, as well as an enhanced resistance to diseases. For example, it is nearly impossible for him to become intoxicated from drinking alcohol. He also has a limited immunity to the fatigue poisons generated by bodily activity, and hence he has greater endurance than an ordinary human. His agility and reflexes are similarly enhanced.

In addition, Wolverine’s healing factor provides him with an extended lifespan by slowing the effects of the aging process. Although over a century old, Wolverine is as healthy and physically fit as a man in his prime.
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It states nowhere in Wolverine's OFFICIAL MARVEL PROFILE that he is a superhuman nor does he possess any superhuman qualities, except ENHANCEMENTS.

Spiderman is stated to have SUPERHUMAN strength and an extreme elevation in agility.



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Wolverine is a meta human he not a regular human. Honestly if you did not know that you should leave. Logan also has 6 foot long claws.


Yes, Wolverine is a metahuman. NOT A SUPERHUMAN.

Logan has six foot claws?

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Those are wolverines claws.

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That is Sephiroth's sword. Sephiroth's sword is six feet long.

So, Wolverine has claws that are the length of Sephiroths blade?

I conclude my post.


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Sadly yes, in a lot of his stats the character isn't based on being superhuman. Feat wise, which is what the forum usually goes buy, well thats stating something entirely different. The handbooks are neat, yea, sadly most of them are just a loose guide, with the characters often varying from what the current stats say.

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I like the use of proper syntax.

Do you? no expression


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some/most characters bios deviate from their feats in comics, some bios are just plain absurd...

i understand what you are trying to convey, but bios are hardly the best reference...

in short, on-panel feats > bios...

on a side note...

squall's lionheart gunblade >> sephiroth's blade... shifty

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The 6 foot claw's comment may have simply been a mistake by Capt, he is a good debator but like I said, it is most probably an unintentional mistake. Also I don't think this is an issue you should put up in the vs forum.


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Spidey can move 40 times faster , not 15.


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I don't get where all of these stats are either, I believe they are just made up.


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"Six foot claws" = six footlong claws

.......meaning each of the six claws is one foot long

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this is going out of your way to prove a point,which is?
not everybody can(or cares) to type properly, but we know what he meant by the six foot claws thing, so where are you going with this?
this is a versus forum,maybe try a PM to capt it up or somthin


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Originally posted by jasonk3
The 6 foot claw's comment may have simply been a mistake by Capt, he is a good debator but like I said, it is most probably an unintentional mistake. Also I don't think this is an issue you should put up in the vs forum.
I think he meant to say, Wolverine has 6, foot long claws.
As in;

123 456
1 foot each.

Just a misunderstanding.


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Ahh the wonders of punctuation.

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As was pointed out, six, one foot long claws.

Oh, and just to let you know, Namor can only fly at fourty miles an hour or so.


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Why did he feel the need to make a thread, You could of pmed him this instead of crying in the open. I think you don't even know yourself and is trying to get people to agree with you to feel better. I think it is the lack of sugar which you need more in your diet. Sugar is yummy.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't get where all of these stats are either, I believe they are just made up.


I got mine from the 'Spidey Guide' published by DK.


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Originally posted by Seraphim XIII

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That is Sephiroth's sword. Sephiroth's sword is six feet long.

So, Wolverine has claws that are the length of Sephiroths blade?

I conclude my post.


Also your wrong their , Sephiroths sword is LONGER then six feet , Sephiroth himself is 6,1 yet the sword (hilt included) still dwarfs him.


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Also your wrong their , Sephiroths sword is LONGER then six feet , Sephiroth himself is 6,1 yet the sword (hilt included) still dwarfs him.


Measure his sword. It's six feet in length. I think it may be one or two inches further, but it's a non sequitur. My point is still valid and the differential is a scarce one at that.


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Originally posted by crimsonphoenix
Why did he feel the need to make a thread, You could of pmed him this instead of crying in the open. I think you don't even know yourself and is trying to get people to agree with you to feel better. I think it is the lack of sugar which you need more in your diet. Sugar is yummy.


I don't know myself? Thanks for the diagnosis, Doctor Crimson. Psst.

Honestly. Agree with me? No, I just wanted to address a point considering the thread had been shut down.


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Originally posted by grey fox
Spidey can move 40 times faster , not 15.


Got any evidence for this statement? I've got information from the creators of spiderman.

You have ... ?


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Originally posted by grey fox
I got mine from the 'Spidey Guide' published by DK.
Oh I wasn't aiming that at you my friend.


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