1. Mxyztplk
2. Darksied with the Anti-Life Equation
3. Ultimator
4. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet
5. Lucifer with Michael's power
6. Living Tribunal
7. Spectre merged with the Source
8. The Great Darkness
9. Thanos with the Heart
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Re: Pre-retcon Beyonder in an other Gauntlet
how in the hell did you put thanos with the IG over mxy? WTF are yu on crack? And over the ultimator ? You list is screwed And thanos with the heart is not over the GEB. He's below. Thanos with the heart is below lucifer with michael's power as well. Lucifer and michael would be God. Get this list in order first.
Ultimator is the same as Multi-Eternity, the embodiment of everything.
The Ultimate Nullifier is above Multi-Eternity and a incomplete Infinity Gauntlet is above the Ultimate Nullifier and finaly, the Infinity Gauntlet is above a incomplete one.
Thanos with the Heart had the supreme beings power.
The Great Darkness merged with the Ultimate Light, creating Yahweh.
Thanos w/ Heart = TOAA = Presence -?- Yahweh = Ultimate Light + Great Darkness
Thanos w/ Heart = -- = Yahweh > Ultimate Light = Great Darkness.
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Your list is all screwed. First of all the ultimator is not the equivilant of MultiEternity. That would be Kismet. she is the Multiversal guardian of the main DCU. Dominus was supremely multiversal and yet he wanted kismet's place and power. The ultimator is the culmination of everything up to the tenth dimension. The dimensions as they go up, get higher in power and lvl. the entire 5th dimension is superior to all of the 3rd dimensional multiverses.
Thanos with the heart is NOT equal to any God. He does not have the will or wisdom. He would be belower Lucifer with michael's power. The IG is not above the multieternity. that is a load of crap. until i see the IG affect the entire multiverse, i'm not buying that sad same old song. Pre retconned beyonder certainly isn't above Mxy. That is a fan boy's wet dream.
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Um no. Kismet isn't Universal. She said what she was when she came out. She was the Guardian of all of the realities. She even helped save superman from the multi universes that dominus kept dreaming up. Kismet is the equal of the Multieternity. It's obvious in JLAvengers that that was multiEternity. ALl of the artifacts gathered by Metron and Gamesmaster where Multiversal or Top tier Universal. The story was about the Entire DCU multiverse and the Marvel multiverse. it was meant to represent universes. not just one universe each. The Ultimator was not what you think. The Ultimator was EVERYTHING up until the 10th dimenstion. He is not the same as the Multieternity. You aren't getting the concept. And Lucifer with mike's power is God. Spectre with the source merged is almost God.
Ok first there is no Pre-retcon Beyonder! If you pay attention lots of things don't make sense, that would conclude he's not as powerful as he thought (which turned out to be true). And second he don't get past 1. Work on the list too..
Do you think that the whole Beyonder concept was supose to be a dream?
No he was supose to be supreme, it was afterwards when the company changed its mind, they didn't like the fact having a being like that, therefore they removed him, or rather removed his power.
But if you can't understand that simply imagion that you live in the 80's, and no comic's after 85 is canon--with the Beyonder that is.
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Mar 25th, 2007 12:05 AM
Nice one.
