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Classic Beyonder vs full power Anti Monitior

Sorry if this is a spite..

Who wins?

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Re: Classic Beyonder vs full power Anti Monitior

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Sorry if this is a spite..

Who wins?

Classic Beyonder was essentially God. He can only be stalemated by another Supreme Being.

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essentially God, God has power over the universe... Anti Monitor had the power of 1000 Universes !!!
the big AM takes it !!

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essentially God, God has power over the universe... Anti Monitor had the power of 1000 Universes !!!
the big AM takes it !!

Wt...Pre Retcon Beyonder takes it he was way to powerful.

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Wt...Pre Retcon Beyonder takes it he was way to powerful.

says who? He didn't make the marvel multiverse.

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says who? He didn't make the marvel multiverse.

AM made the DC verse?

Stan Lee "made" the Marvel verse, he got fired.

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says who? He didn't make the marvel multiverse.

Neither did the AM.

AM had the power of most of the Multiverse.

Beyonder embodied a Multiverse septillions of times larger than the MArvel Multiverse.

No brainer here, really.

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Neither did the AM.

AM had the power of most of the Multiverse.

Beyonder embodied a Multiverse septillions of times larger than the MArvel Multiverse.

No brainer here, really.

Only an idiot would think that just becuz something is bigger that it is more powerful. the beyonder didn't make the marvel multiverse. And even then he was only everything OUTSIDE of the marvel multiverse. Guess what? There is now a marvel OMNIVERSE. Which would be everthing that the beyonder was AND the multiverse. The AM took the infinite creation blast of the spectre that was amped even more and didn't even break a sweat.

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Only an idiot would think that just becuz something is bigger that it is more powerful. the beyonder didn't make the marvel multiverse. And even then he was only everything OUTSIDE of the marvel multiverse. Guess what? There is now a marvel OMNIVERSE. Which would be everthing that the beyonder was AND the multiverse. The AM took the infinite creation blast of the spectre that was amped even more and didn't even break a sweat.

And a limited Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than anything and everything in the Multiverse.

Beyonder took a blast that could slag millions of dimensions, with a cough.

By thinking to much, he collasped parallel universes.

He beat a planet of Celestials in H2H combat.

By being angry, he was destroying the Multiverse.

Beyonder's feats are far greater than AM's.

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Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx And a limited Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than anything and everything in the Multiverse.Beyonder took a blast that could slag millions of dimensions, with a cough.By thinking to much, he collasped parallel universes.He beat a planet of Celestials in H2H combat.By being angry, he was destroying the Multiverse.Beyonder's feats are far greater than AM's.

No they aren't. The AM had the power of everything that was opposite the DC multiverse. And then, he he the power of nearly infinite realities. He reordered the DCU in such a way that his power is still felt to this day. The beyonder got a retconn.

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No they aren't. The AM had the power of everything that was opposite the DC multiverse. And then, he he the power of nearly infinite realities. He reordered the DCU in such a way that his power is still felt to this day. The beyonder got a retconn.

So because Beyonder was retconned, he is weaker?

Beyonder's on-panel feats are far greater, hell, his statements are greater. Beyonder was a Multiverse Septillions of times larger and more powerful than the Infinite MArvel Multiverse.

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So because Beyonder was retconned, he is weaker?

Beyonder's on-panel feats are far greater, hell, his statements are greater. Beyonder was a Multiverse Septillions of times larger and more powerful than the Infinite MArvel Multiverse.

Beyonder was NEVER as powerful as you or anyone says. As in it never happened that way.

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Beyonder was NEVER as powerful as you or anyone says. As in it never happened that way.

He was before the retcon. smile

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The question here should be could AM resist reality manipulation on the scale that the Beyonder was throwing out. Essentially the Beyonder was a Super Genie with the ability to grant unlimited wishes.

before the retcon, Marvel used to have a power scale, and basically anything that was placed or categorized as beyond was supreme power without limits. AM was defeated.

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The question here should be could AM resist reality manipulation on the scale that the Beyonder was throwing out. Essentially the Beyonder was a Super Genie with the ability to grant unlimited wishes.

before the retcon, Marvel used to have a power scale, and basically anything that was placed or categorized as beyond was supreme power without limits. AM was defeated.

The AM was defeated by careful planning and a series of carefully planned attacks. If the classic beyonder were in the DCU, he would have fell as well. And In actuality, the beyonder doesn't have any feats of the magnitude that anyone suggest.

Aug 11th, 2008 06:22 AM