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AsbestosFlaygon
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The Spectre VS The Source

Who is stronger?

Aug 10th, 2008 02:16 PM

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kevdude
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The Source is.

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Aug 10th, 2008 03:18 PM

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AsbestosFlaygon
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What proof do you have to support your claim?
You could at least back them up with on-panel scans or something.

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Aug 10th, 2008 04:01 PM

kevdude
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It powers everything in DC and while The Spectre destroyed Darkseid it was The Source who reversed what the Spectre did and remade DS.

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Aug 10th, 2008 04:12 PM

AsbestosFlaygon
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So is The Source truly that powerful?
Is it stronger than either Michael or Lucifer?

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Aug 10th, 2008 04:18 PM

kevdude
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Yes its very powerful, nobody really knows what it is but it seems to follow in line with Taoism and its responsible for creating the universe. The Source by some comics is God, it and YHWH "The Presence" seem to be one and the same or it is Gods infinite power. Lucifer went behind the Wall and stood on its shoulder and ignored it.

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Aug 10th, 2008 04:51 PM

Galan007
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the godwave [ie. the source's prime energy] has already owned spectre.

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Then why were the 3 Skyfathers able to split the Source in half? If it is indeed God.

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Then why were the 3 Skyfathers able to split the Source in half? If it is indeed God.

It's not God. It never was. And the three skyfathers were the old gods. Which just all happened to be Galactus level beings.

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It's not God. It never was. And the three skyfathers were the old gods. Which just all happened to be Galactus level beings.

How do you figure?

Aug 11th, 2008 11:03 AM

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Edit.

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How do you figure?

Lucifer disregards the source. He is more powerful than the source. It cannot be God. And The Old gods were far more powerful than the New gods. They were created when the source was still whole. They were each and everyone above what is considered a skyfather. Which is why the leaders of thier pantheons were so powerful and were able to split the source into two beings.

Aug 11th, 2008 11:18 AM

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Lucifer disregards the source. He is more powerful than the source. It cannot be God. And The Old gods were far more powerful than the New gods. They were created when the source was still whole. They were each and everyone above what is considered a skyfather. Which is why the leaders of thier pantheons were so powerful and were able to split the source into two beings.

Ahh, thanks. Do you have a list of the leaders?

Aug 11th, 2008 11:25 AM

AsbestosFlaygon
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by fangirl101
Lucifer disregards the source. He is more powerful than the source. It cannot be God. And The Old gods were far more powerful than the New gods. They were created when the source was still whole. They were each and everyone above what is considered a skyfather. Which is why the leaders of thier pantheons were so powerful and were able to split the source into two beings.

Are you implying that Lucifer and/or Michael is stronger than The Source?

Isn't The Spectre more or less as powerful as the 2 Archangels?
Therefore The Spectre >> The Source?

Aug 11th, 2008 12:22 PM

GalacticStorm
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Originally posted by kevdude
Yes its very powerful, nobody really knows what it is but it seems to follow in line with Taoism and its responsible for creating the universe. The Source by some comics is God, it and YHWH "The Presence" seem to be one and the same or it is Gods infinite power. Lucifer went behind the Wall and stood on its shoulder and ignored it.

He hardly ignored the Source. He just stood on its shoulder and they both watched the planet from the Sources vantage point.

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Lucifer disregards the source. He is more powerful than the source. It cannot be God.

Lucifer doesn't ignore the Source as if the Source is less than him. He just doesn't have a conversation with him, there's a difference.

They sit and observe Earth together. No conversation was required in that scene.

Even if he had actually ignored him, saying that equates to him being more powerful is just supposition. Thats just an interpretation of the scene and one that wasn't verified on panel by statement or demonstration. It could just as well have been arrogance. He is after all the son of God.

The Source is an aspect of God, just like Presence and the Voice are and so on.

On panel the Source has been considered God:

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As you see here in Day Of Judgement #2 upon the gates of Heaven opening, talks of how the Sources presence can be felt and how it is welcoming them in.

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Aug 11th, 2008 03:58 PM

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The other thing is, Starlin is a moron. And his interpretations of what the Old Gods and The Source are, should be completely disregarded.

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