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Caedus vs Palpatine (Dark Empire)

I noticed LOTF is beginning to overhype jacen solo and possibly contradict prievious statements of palpatine being the strongest sith lord.

What are your opinions?

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I think Sidious would come out on top. The saber fight would be closer than the force fight.

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Jacen gave Luke a good fight. I say he beats Sidious. Sidious was the strongest Sith, Jacen just became stronger, so the statament wouldn't really be contridicted.


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Jacen is NOT stronger than Luke. Sidious beats him in a saber duel with some difficulty, then proceeds to spank him with the force.


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I don't really think Jacen is stronger than Sidious.

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Sidious rapes his no problem.


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Imo sidious beats the hell out of him with the force

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Sidious laughs as he destroys Caedus, and then call him a deluded Vader.


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I think some of you are underrating Caedus. Sidious' lightning won't be effective against him because any pain will only make him stronger. And Caedus hiding in the force will mean Sidious' precognition will be hindered. Not to mention, Luke's dueling skills apparently improved since DE, so Caedus losing to him in a close battle is better than Sidious can say.

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Jacen gave Luke a good fight. I say he beats Sidious. Sidious was the strongest Sith, Jacen just became stronger, so the statament wouldn't really be contridicted.


I haven't read the last of LotF so... since when is Jacen powerful enough for some people to say he might even beat DE Sidious or give him a very hard fight??


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I think some of you are underrating Caedus. Sidious' lightning won't be effective against him because any pain will only make him stronger. And Caedus hiding in the force will mean Sidious' precognition will be hindered. Not to mention, Luke's dueling skills apparently improved since DE, so Caedus losing to him in a close battle is better than Sidious can say.
Sidious can do anything caedus does, like hiding in the force.

Sidious mastered more techniques than caedus

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Anybody mind telling me how Sidious beats Caedus, let alone rapes him, when Caedus was close enough to LotF Luke in a saber duel that he actually injured him?


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Because Luke was raping Jacen almost the whole fight. It was pretty obvious that luke was winning. And luke showed he could easily use the force to make Jacen his b!tch earlier in the book with the whole chair thing. Palpatine would use the full dark side powers and JAcen would be done for.


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Because Luke was raping Jacen almost the whole fight.

Really.

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It was pretty obvious that luke was winning.

Really. Is that why Caedus managed to break Luke's nose, shoulder and leg?


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And luke showed he could easily use the force to make Jacen his b!tch earlier in the book with the whole chair thing.

Well then, either something happened to make Caedus a LOT stronger by the end of the book, or there is an inconsistency, in which case the strong version of Caedus (who broke Luke's nose, shoulder and leg) could at least give Sidious a great fight, and quite possibly win.


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The fact that Luke saw what was happening with Ben and the fact that Luke killing Jacen would turn Ben to the darkside is what stopped him from going all out.


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Right, an all out luke will annihilate just about anybody

Seeing that the true sith died out in ROTJ and caedus becoming a full sith lord. Doesnt that contradict GL's word?

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Somewhat. Basically his whole legacy was tarnished when he didn't give a shit anymore, because he was already a billionaire. But the real sith died at Endor. Everyone else was a pretender.


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If he doesn't care, then I'm surprised no one ever made a lame novel that depicted Revan as a god. XD


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But one question remains, as of now, who is the most powerful sith lord?

Caedus or sidious?

The only one claiming caedus is the most powerful is darth sith and that is absurd.

Palpatine obviously mastered every aspect of the force, he could create a vortex which destroyed a rebel fleet and possibly he can make it big enough to devour a planet.

We have also seen palpatine reducing 3 powerful sith acolytes to dust with one shot of lightning

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Originally posted by Manslayer
Sidious can do anything caedus does, like hiding in the force.

Sidious mastered more techniques than caedus

Sure he can hide in the force, but can you give me evidence he does this constantly in battle?
And Jacen using pain to help him came from his time with the Vong.


If this is a fight then I think Caedus could win this.

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