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thanos w/ig vs the entire phoenix force*

the battle takes place in the white hot room.


who wins?


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Thanos ftw.

*snap*


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Thanos ftw.

*snap*

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not if it takes place in the White hot room no way

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not if it takes place in the White hot room no way


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Thanos wins


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Pf in Whr is like way more uber?

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Originally posted by CaPz

Pf in Whr is like way more uber?

Are you being sarcastic? smile

Or is it, you don't know what the IG is?


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Are you being sarcastic? smile

Or is it, you don't know what the IG is?


thanos ftw

master is ok if i pm you with a few questions?


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Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet only answers to the Living Tribunal and above.


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Originally posted by celestialdemon

Thanos wins

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Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet only answers to the Living Tribunal and above.

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Originally posted by LORD B

thanos ftw

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Originally posted by LORD B

master is ok if i pm you with a few questions?

Of course you can friend, anytime.

I'm going to feed now, so give me about 15-20 minutes to respond.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Are you being sarcastic? smile

Or is it, you don't know what the IG is?
Nah man i read it. Im unfamiliar with the WHR apparently.

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im a big phoenix fan but i cant see her winning this. the only way i see phoenix having a slight chance is.
if we say this is rachel with the power beyonder gave her to kill him. and iirc she absorbed the life forces of every one in the universe befor she attacked him.
and she still only knocked him down.
now her mother did repair the energy lattus with only a few life forces on hand, some would consider this a multiversal feat some would consider it less.
with a universe of life forces backing her up and the beyonders power amp one could make an argument that that she was the most powerfull phoenix avatar.
not that she was better at using the phoenix force. or even more powerfull with it going from feats shown.

just some thaughts
thanos for the win


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I was seriously expecting PF to get more vote because she is a child of the Universe and well It can never die. Anyways I will go with Thanos with IG since they are much more powerful IMO


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Question the White hot room is it in a pocket universe or is it another universe in itself or does it exist outside the multiverse? If so does the Ig only control the multiverse? So if the White hot room is outside the multiverse somehow the IG should be rendered useless in theory... but idk if the WHR is outside the multiverse or if the IG is only restricted to the multiverse. Soo can anyone clear things up for me?

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In regards to the White Hot Room.
Pocket Universe, Realm, Dimension, what ever you want to call it (I stick to dimension). It’s a dimension that exists outside of the universe(s).


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Thanos W/ig ftw


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by xjustice69x

im a big phoenix fan but i cant see her winning this.

the only way i see phoenix having a slight chance is.

if we say this is rachel with the power beyonder gave her to kill him.

Rachel never had the power to kill the Beyonder.

That was the Beyonder that made her believe that,
but in the end, he told her the truth.

Beyonder did however give Rachel the full power of the Phoenix Force,
that feat is still canon to Post-Retcon's Beyonder's powerset.

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Originally posted by xjustice69x

and iirc she absorbed the life forces
of every one in the universe befor she attacked him.
and she still only knocked him down.

Rachel never absorbed the life force of everyone in the universe.

Rachel telepathically became one with the Universe,
she witnessed all the "yearnings/dreams/sorrows" etc. of every being,
and with the power of the full force, she was able to collect those emotions,
but Rachel lost control and Storm had to appease her,
when Beyonder took his power back,
Rachel also gave him what she experienced,

Beyonder didn't fall from his own power coming back at him, lol.
Beyonder fell cause he was awestruck with the preciousness of simple life.
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Proof!
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While wielding the Full power of the PF,
Rachel had just touched the life of every common being in the universe,
their desires, their pains, their dreams ect.

When Beyonder took back the power he gave Rachel,
she threw back at him the experiences of every common being in the universe,
Beyonder was overwhelmed because he expecrienced every single individual life simultaneously,
he had no idea common folk could be so precious.

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Rachel (Full FP) touches every common being in the Universe:

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You can read them completely but this excerpt from those scans says it all:

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"She touches everyone,
she experiences their dreams, their yearnings, their terrors,
all they were and are and hope to be,
the totality of their beings
"

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Rachel also freaks out from the experience, but Storm is there to console her:

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Rachel was never able to hurt Beyonder physically in any way shape or form:

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"You are what you are solely because I will it"

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This is when Beyonder takes the power he gave Rachel back:

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What is it that Beyonder can't stop,
what is it that overwhelmed Beyonder?


What Rachel had just collected from every individual.

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"He sought power --- but this is far more --
All that Phoenix experienced
the totality of Life, in all its forms
"


Which is why Storm says,

"We each have our little lives, our destinies, our unique paths to walk"

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Beyonder even appreciated learning of the preciousness of individual life:

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"Thank you for what you have shown me this night,
it is strange
--- but I find myself envying you ... Humanity"

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"Humanity" Hmm ...

Imo it goes to show that what really floored him was only the preciousness of Human life,
forget the rest of the universe.


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now her mother did repair the energy lattus with only a few life forces on hand, some would consider this a multiversal feat some would consider it less.

Jean needed all the X-Men's plus Corsair's powers and spirits to re-knit the lattice.

It was the energy lattice that contains the N-Galaxy,
which Phoenix would have never been able to contain:

In fact,
once the Lattice breach went past "the point of no return"
the N-Galaxy would be unleashed, consuming a single Universe, and Phoenix also.

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Oh and, the "N-Galaxy" was a Universal remaker then (X-Men#108) 1977
and it's still just a Universal re-maker NOW:

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2007 edition - Mkraan Crystal)

quote: (post)
Originally posted by xjustice69x

with a universe of life forces backing her up
and the beyonders power amp
one could make an argument that that she was the most powerfull phoenix avatar.

There no such thing as a "a universe of life forces backing her up" ...

btw. She became the full Phoenix Force, nothing more.

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not that she was better at using the phoenix force.
or even more powerfull with it going from feats shown.

Rachel did bash through Jahf a lot easier than Jean. (just sayin)
Jean was actually helped by the X-Men.
Still doesn't mean much.

They both needed the X-Men to manipulate something withIN.

They both have psychically touched all beings in a legitimate Universe.

So imo, it seems that they have achieved an equal amount of feats,
in terms of the scale of uberness involved.

(I'm only referring to incidents that took place withIN 616)

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Originally posted by xjustice69x

just some thaughts
thanos for the win

I agree.


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