well he inspired me to make this thread in his small comparison of the two in the Bastilla thread
plus Advent's old post establishes Malak on his own is below Dooku
(so are a lot of people but just saying)
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I don't see how Malak, head and shoulders above an entire Sith Order consisting of hundreds, "strongest among us who leads" according to them, legendary swordsman (KotOR official website- unfortunately now defunct), and someone the Jedi Council was absolutely terrified to challenge could be manhandled in saber combat by a talented though relatively raw Sith Lord. Yes, Maul was good, but I doubt he was much far at all below Dooku; Dooku's real one-ups over Malak would be longer life leading to more Force mastery and Form II mastery (Though we are never told what form Malak uses).
I'd consider both Maul and Dooku, by virtue of also being above the vast majority of Jedi at the time, to be on par with Malak in reference to swordsmanship. Maul comes up well short in force powers, though. However, Maul having made the Jedi Battlemaster, someone whose skills were apparently close to Yoda and Mace, and second to none below the council, realize he was completely outmatched in moments, would be able to make Malak realize he'd had a fight
Why does Dooku have the edge in force powers over Malak? According to KOTOR and the Dark side sourcebook I think, Malak had more force abilities than Dooku
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True, Malak was a bonafide Sith Lord, but Dooku was top of his generation and master of Form II. That makes him pretty damn difficult in a real battle. Personally, I think Malak's physical power would help negate some of the Form II precision, as well as Malak hardly being unfamiliar with a lightsaber. As for Force? Dooku's one of the best Force users of his era.
That he is Janus, but Malak was #2 of his. I'm not saying that automatically puts him higher than Dooku and I haven't read every book about Dooku, but Malak's skill with the force, especially on the SF, is considerable.
For Maul's power...that's difficult, except we know he could shrug off Force Lightning from a Nightsister, use force choke/crush....he was also described in the TPM novelization as being more powerful than Qui-gon...both better with a saber and stronger in the force. He obviously doesn't use the Force a great deal, though
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If TPM Kenobi can slice Maul in two, Malak can most certainly do it also, and much quicker. Although Star Forge Malak is a "boosted" Malak, he is pretty powerful when you face him onboard the Leviathan, no matter how short that duel may be, when he's unboosted. True, Revan wears him down in that duel, but I doubt Maul could as fast as Revan could.
And yes, I'm doing that thing again. You know, ignoring the debate straying from the topic and going back to the beginning of the thread. It's my special talent
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