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Crossbones Vs Wolverine and Shatterstar

Crossbones has had one weeks prep. The fight takes place in a vast abandoned factory which Crossbones has booby trapped. Ok im not going to specify what the traps are but by looking at Crossbones abilities and talents you can get some idea of what traps might be used and how dangerous they might be.

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Crossbones is a world-class hand-to-hand fighter with extensive experience in street-fighting and various martial arts and military combat techniques. He is an expert pilot and a marksman with crossbows, guns and throwing knives.

His weaponry includes various firearms, a collapsible crossbow, a wrist spike, spring-loaded stiletto blades in his gauntlets, various explosives and poisoned knives.

These are the sort of traps he is likely to make. Explosive traps, posionous traps and traps that release blades that can cut opponents to pieces.

Wolverine and Shatterstar have to hunt down Crossbones before they can fight him.
Wolverine and Shatterstar have had no prep. Who wins?

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crossbones would get his ass kicked.


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crossbones would get his ass kicked.


He had a weeks prep and he is pretty damn smart! Remember they have to find him. Without prep Crossbones :

Although Crossbones has no superhuman powers, he is still a very dangerous combatant, killing lesser superheroes and villains with ease

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crossbones would get his ass kicked.


What part of this dont you get? no expression Crossbones is a chump. Either of them would take him pretty easily.

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What part of this dont you get? no expression Crossbones is a chump. Either of them would take him pretty easily.


How is he a chump? If Crossbones fought Wolverine H2H he would probably lose but he is good enough to give him a hardtime. He is very smart and he is good at prep and he has had one week, furthermore I repeat:

Although Crossbones has no superhuman powers, he is still a very dangerous combatant, killing lesser superheroes and villains with ease and having gone toe-to-toe with Captain America on a number of occasions.

This is what he is capable of WITHOUT prep.

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How is he a chump? If Crossbones fought Wolverine H2H he would probably lose but he is good enough to give him a hardtime. He is very smart and he is good at prep and he has had one week, furthermore I repeat:

Although Crossbones has no superhuman powers, he is still a very dangerous combatant, killing lesser superheroes and villains with ease and having gone toe-to-toe with Captain America on a number of occasions.

This is what he is capable of WITHOUT prep.


Stop qouting wikipedia, it isnt the most reliable of sources no expression No. Crossbones is not anything special, he's just your average "Peak human" Merc really, like deadpool or taskmaster but alot less skill-full and not as layered. Shatterstar beats him 10/10. As does Wolverine. If they take him on at the same time, all that will happen is that it will take less time.

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Stop qouting wikipedia, it isnt the most reliable of sources no expression No. Crossbones is not anything special, he's just your average "Peak human" Merc really, like deadpool or taskmaster but alot less skill-full and not as layered. Shatterstar beats him 10/10. As does Wolverine. If they take him on at the same time, all that will happen is that it will take less time.


Well I dunno about that he has fought Cap several times and given him trouble, he has fought Bullseye. He was able rescue Red Skull from Magento, this shows how smart he is. He is not as skillful as Taskmaster but if he can fight Cap he can give Wolverine problems but he has had prep which he is pretty good at.

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He had a weeks prep and he is pretty damn smart! Remember they have to find him. Without prep Crossbones :

Although Crossbones has no superhuman powers, he is still a very dangerous combatant, killing lesser superheroes and villains with ease


this isn't Cap or Batman


he isnt that smart enough to beat these two or even one of them.

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Well I dunno about that he has fought Cap several times and given him trouble, he has fought Bullseye. He was able rescue Red Skull from Magento, this shows how smart he is. He is not as skillful as Taskmaster but if he can fight Cap he can give Wolverine problems but he has had prep which he is pretty good at.


Show me any actualy proof that he could last 5 minutes against either of these guys and i'll yield. But Crossbones is nothing but a poor man's Deadpool IMO a very, very poor man's. He doesnt have what it takes to beat either Shatterstar or Wolverine.

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crossbones is like bane on crack ..... wolverine and shatterstar will kill him in 2 seconds

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this isn't Cap or Batman


he isnt that smart enough to beat these two or even one of them. [/B][/QUOTE]

No he is very smart he almost killed Cap with a booby trap, and you know how smart Cap is.

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Show me any actualy proof that he could last 5 minutes against either of these guys and i'll yield. But Crossbones is nothing but a poor man's Deadpool IMO a very, very poor man's. He doesnt have what it takes to beat either Shatterstar or Wolverine.


Havent you been listening he has fought Cap on several occasions and given him trouble that does not mean he can beat Wolverine but he can give Wolverine trouble...thats why he gets prep.

He has saved The Red Skull from Magneto. No he did not fight Magento but he had to break Red Skull free from imprisonment.

He tried to kill the Kingpin had to fight Bullseye but was stopped by Typhoid Mary.

He was sent to kill Gambit, with Batroc and Zaran but Gambit and The Assasins Guild stopped him.

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he isnt that smart enough to beat these two or even one of them.







He has saved The Red Skull from Magneto. No he did not fight Magento but he had to break Red Skull free from imprisonment.

He tried to kill the Kingpin had to fight Bullseye but was stopped by Typhoid Mary.

He was sent to kill Gambit, with Batroc and Zaran but Gambit and The Assasins Guild stopped him.

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it seems like he got stopped a lot of times confused
and the part where he saved red skull?? he wasn't even fighting just got him free, every human with 2 arms and brain could do it confused

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Yes but nothing you have said has made a difference, So he broke red skull free? oh great, so impressive. He had to kill kingpin? Failed. Had to kill Gambit? along with two other people? Failed

Wolverine/Shatterstar beat him every single time.

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it seems like he got stopped a lot of times confused


How many times has Sabretooth tried to kill Wolverine??? So that means because he has failed everytime that hes rubbish

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and the part where he saved red skull?? he wasn't even fighting just got him free, every human with 2 arms and brain could do it confused


You expect a street leveler to beat magneto one on one. So every human being can save a friend if they get kidnaped by Magneto....is that what you're trying to tell me? Crossbones breaking Red Skull free shows how good his prep is.

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Yes but nothing you have said has made a difference, So he broke red skull free? oh great, so impressive. He had to kill kingpin? Failed. Had to kill Gambit? along with two other people? Failed

Wolverine/Shatterstar beat him every single time.



This is a rubbish argument most villains fail most of the time no matter who they are. But obvoulsy the heroes they get to fight tend to reflect on how dangerous they are.

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How many times has Sabretooth tried to kill Wolverine??? So that means because he has failed everytime that hes rubbish



You expect a street leveler to beat magneto one on one. So every human being can save a friend if they get kidnaped by Magneto....is that what you're trying to tell me? Crossbones breaking Red Skull free shows how good his prep is.




This is a rubbish argument most villains fail most of the time no matter who they are. But obvoulsy the heroes they get to fight tend to reflect on how dangerous they are.


No not really, it's perfectly fine. and it shows you, Crossbones could not take down Gambit by himself (who IMO Logan could take h2h) He needed back up from Batroc and Zaran no expression And they still failed.

Crossbones has nothing that could kill wolverine, maybe injure him. Bullets wont make much difference, poisons? Wont make much difference. Crossbones recieves a fist full of Adamantium claws to the stomach, Or if not that A quick impalement from shatterstar (who also happens to have an awesome healing factor)

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buttom line even with prep, crossbone can't do jack to either one.


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No not really, it's perfectly fine. and it shows you, Crossbones could not take down Gambit by himself (who IMO Logan could take h2h) He needed back up from Batroc and Zaran no expression And they still failed.


Im sorry you need to pay attention because you are missing out important points....I said

He was sent to kill Gambit, with Batroc and Zaran but Gambit AND THE ASSASSINS GUILD STOPPED HIM

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Crossbones has nothing that could kill wolverine, maybe injure him. Bullets wont make much difference, poisons? Wont make much difference. Crossbones recieves a fist full of Adamantium claws to the stomach, Or if not that A quick impalement from shatterstar (who also happens to have an awesome healing factor)


I said he gets a week of prep. Wolverine's healing factor does not make him immortal something tells me that somebodu who used to be an instructor at Taskmasters school can find away to seriously **** up Wolverine with poison, explosives and blades.

Wolverine

but it took him almost two months to fully recover from injuries sustained in a duel with Lord Shingen, which included one from a sword that went all the way through his trunk.

What so Crossbones cant make a trap to do that???

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buttom line even with prep, crossbone can't do jack to either one.


Yeah you're right. You know why? Because you said so.

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Im sorry you need to pay attention because you are missing out important points....I said

He was sent to kill Gambit, with Batroc and Zaran but Gambit AND THE ASSASSINS GUILD STOPPED HIM



I said he gets a week of prep. Wolverine's healing factor does not make him immortal something tells me that somebodu who used to be an instructor at Taskmasters school can find away to seriously **** up Wolverine with poison, explosives and blades.

Wolverine

but it took him almost two months to fully recover from injuries sustained in a duel with Lord Shingen, which included one from a sword that went all the way through his trunk.

What so Crossbones cant make a trap to do that???


Lord Shingen duel was a long time ago, and Wolverine's healing factor is alot stronger now. I'm not saying it makes him immortal but no explosions, blades, poisons (which are useless to be honest, they wont kill him) or bullets wont kill him. And I doubt that with all that prep the fight would last long enough for Crossbones to use any of this. He gets killed very very easily by shatterstar and Wolverine. What dont you get? Two on one, Two extremely skilled mutants against a peak human. It's to be expected.

Shatterstar Wolverine 10/10

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wolverine alone will kill crossbones 10/10 , what can crossbones do to him? wolverine is too skilled for him, too strong and fast for him, one stab from wolverine and crossbones is dead thats it
crossbones on the other hand cant do anything to wolverine even if he stabs him with a sword , thats already happened with silver samurai and wolverine just cuts his arm off and nothing even hurt to wolverine, i know that there are many wolverine fanboys around and they say he should win fights that he shouldn't , but against someone like crossbones please its easy walk in the park

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Lord Shingen duel was a long time ago, and Wolverine's healing factor is alot stronger now.


Um he has had his adamantuim upgraded I dont know about his healing factor, can you give me something in black and white to prove it.

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I'm not saying it makes him immortal but no explosions, blades, poisons (which are useless to be honest, they wont kill him) or bullets wont kill him. And I doubt that with all that prep the fight would last long enough for Crossbones to use any of this. He gets killed very very easily by shatterstar and Wolverine. What dont you get? Two on one, Two extremely skilled mutants against a peak human. It's to be expected.

Shatterstar Wolverine 10/10 [/B]


That depends on how powerful the explosion is his healing factor can get overloaded. You're right poison wont do jack.


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wolverine alone will kill crossbones 10/10 , what can crossbones do to him? wolverine is too skilled for him, too strong and fast for him, one stab from wolverine and crossbones is dead thats it
crossbones on the other hand cant do anything to wolverine even if he stabs him with a sword , thats already happened with silver samurai and wolverine just cuts his arm off and nothing even hurt to wolverine, i know that there are many wolverine fanboys around and they say he should win fights that he shouldn't , but against someone like crossbones please its easy walk in the park


I see so someone who is good enough to fight cap is not going to cause Wolvie any problems? Someone who is good enough to be sent to kill Gambit and The Kingpin is crap, right? Crossbones was fighting Bullseye but Typhoid Mary stopped him he is a dangerous martial artist and on his own without prep would probably lose but he is good enough to give Wolverine trouble.

P.S. Its ok im reading about W's healign factor in wikipedia....

Well im confused if Cap can use his hands to stop Wolverine from seathing his claws, why cant some one who has been trained use xplosives to overload his healing factor...

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