ok? maybe something to go by. like a feat or two. maybe?
i'm pretty sure hammond is stronger than cyke. and he's super-durable without his flame. he's been trained by steve rogers as well. he probably was modeled after a prime human specimen, or peak human, seeing as he always seemed to have a natural edge against any h2h opponent, even before he was trained by cap.
here are thena's powers(besides immortality):
Superhuman speed, strength, durability, and healing
Energy blasts
Flight
Illusion generation
Matter transmutation
Mind control
Telekinesis
Telepathy
Teleportation
Cyclops knows Judo. I think he has a few other styles. He is a great thinker. He can adapt and learn your style and predict some of your movements. He is able to dodge the likes of wolverine and topple colossus with Judo.
who ever said wonder man was hurt? like a said jim has human limitations, he can't hurt wonder man, but it was the fact that he engaged him h2h and was fast enough to strike him although he has enhanced reflexes.
hammond wins.scott is more skilled, but not far more skilled.......not at all. it's not like cap just gave jim a few pointers here and there. he was with cap for years. besides that he has at least 4 decades of combat experience. jim is also physically superior to cyke, not to mention he's super durable and has demostrated a healing factor before.
the skill gap isn't nearly enough here to make up for all that. besides that, cyke doesn't have the feats. the most impressive feat i've ever seen from cyke was taking a few unarmed thugs with his eyes closed.jim has done something similar, except he was blinded, disorientated, and nausceous from gas..........and the guys had weapons.
the feat with wolverine vs cyke is shaky. that fight was extremely circumstancial.
besides, thena is faster and far more durable than wolvie, and jim managed to hook her pretty good........not to mention enduring her slamming him hard into a wall with telekenesis......without any signs of injury or a KO.
when you see an unknown vs a fan fav in a thread, you might want to consider the feats/stats thrown out there for you, instead of picking the one you are most familiar with.
Cyclops took on the entire X-Team with broken ribs and used very little powers, got slapped by a sentinel and didn't get ko'd. I'm really starting to think that you made this thread just to have Jim beat someone. Why would you put someone who has superhuman durability against someone who is said to have only human durability in a H2H fight? Also just because you hit someone doesn't necessarily mean you're fast enough to hit him. If the guy knows its not going to hurt him then whats the point in dodging? Its like Juggernaut trying to dodge a full-powered optic blast. Whats the point? Cyclops trains his body and keeps it in perfect conditioning every day.
Please. Don't refer to me to as some newbie who's never picked up a comic book. I personally love choosing an unknown...IF they deserve to/can actually win.
It still seems like its unfair. He pitted a guy with super durability against a guy with human durability in straight H2H. WTF? Wouldn't it be more balanced if he was fighting Deadpool, Rogers, Wolverine?
* c'mon man, Cyclops is not a fan favorite like Wolverine, Batman, Superman, Spider-man, etc... in fact, he is one of the most underrated Marvel characters, Whedon even sees him as a team washout for several years...
* Cyclops seemed to be popular and gaining lot of supporters is because out of respect... not fanboyism...
* no feats? comics showed Scott kicked asses of 5-6 thugs eyes closed incorporating fighting styles of his teammates... he is an Aikido & Judo expert, engages extensive traning exercises of normal men...
* pitting Scott against "unknown" with super-durability is still a spite
I agree. I will even admit that I grew up hating Cyclops as a kid. The 90s cartoon just put Wolverine in my face so much I just learned to like him and hate Cyclops. It was feats and comics that made me respect him later on and realize that Wolverine wasn't all that great, just overhyped.
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